Saucony guide 17

Learn more about the Saucony guide 17 male running shoes, including key features, performance, reviews, model updates, and more.

Saucony guide 17

Price

$240

Rating

High

Popularity

Very Popular

The Saucony Guide 17 offers moderate stability and cushioning, sitting between the more cushioned Triumph and the lighter, neutral Ride models in Saucony's lineup.

8 colorways

Colorway: Navy/Cobalt

Widths available: normal, wide

Summary

The Saucony Guide 17 is a stability running shoe designed to provide support and comfort for runners who require assistance in correcting overpronation. It fits into Saucony's lineup by offering a structured and balanced ride, combining a moderate level of cushioning with support features that help maintain a natural gait cycle. Compared to other models in Saucony's range, the Guide series sits between the more neutral options, like the Saucony Ride, and the maximum stability models like the Saucony Hurricane or Omni. It's ideal for runners looking for a reliable daily trainer that contributes to both control and comfort on various runs.

Surface

road

Cushioning

MinLowMediumHighMax(31mm)

Breathability

LowMediumHigh((formfit engineered mesh) upper)

Weight

269g

Heel-to-Toe Drop

8mm0mm14mm

Support

NeutralLightHigh

Width options

normal, wide, extra-wide

Grip

LowMediumHighMax

Suitability

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Pros & Cons

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Fittir conducts a detailed analysis of the Saucony guide 17 to provide you with a comprehensive overview of the shoes features, pros, and cons based on 53 wear-tester reviews.

Summary: The Saucony Guide 17 is a well-received stability running shoe that features significant design improvements, including enhanced cushioning and innovative Center Path Technology for effective support. While it excels in comfort and stability for daily training and long runs, some reviewers noted it may lack responsiveness and agility for speed work, making it best suited for runners seeking a reliable, cushioned ride rather than a dynamic performance..

Most Mentioned Pros

Most Mentioned Cons

cushion
Cushion feeling: Normal

The main concerns about the shoe's cushioning are that it may not provide enough responsiveness and energy return, which could affect the running experience for some users.

responsiveness (5)

comfort (4)

softness (3)

sockliner (3)

foam (3)

firmness (3)

bounce (2)

plushness (2)

Pros

"The Saucony Guide 17 features a highly cushioned and smooth ride, making it optimal for daily training."

cushioned

daily training

smooth ride

"The PWRRUN foam cushioning offers a plush and responsive ride."

PWRRUN foam

responsive cushioning

plush ride

"The shoe features a soft and responsive Power Run Plus material for increased energy return and cushioning."

cushioning

energy return

"The cushioning of the shoe has progressively improved over the years, providing a softer feel with each version."

cushioning

improvement

"The shoe's new design incorporates a lower drop and a more rockered ride, enhancing the running experience."

rockered

low drop

smooth consistent

"The increased stack height provides better cushioning, improving comfort."

cushioning

comfort

"The shoe offers excellent cushioning, making it a great choice for daily training."

cushioning

daily trainer

recovery run

"It feels smooth and soft during runs or walks, enhancing the overall experience."

smooth

soft

walk

"Runners appreciate the soft feel of the midsole that provides excellent underfoot protection."

protection

knees

softness

"The shoe has a balanced and accommodating cushioning feel."

cushioning

smooth

comfort

"The PWRRUN+ sockliner adds to the natural and comfortable feel of the shoe."

sockliner

comfort

natural feel

"The PWRRUN+ sockliner enhances immediate comfort for runners right out of the box."

PWRRUN+

comfort

step-in

"The PWRRUN+ sockliner adds immediate step-in comfort, enhancing the overall cushioned experience."

sockliner

initial comfort

impact protection

"The cushioning provides a soft bounce, contributing to comfort during runs."

bounce

cushioning

comfort

"The Guide 17 provides a bouncy feel, adding to the overall comfort during runs."

energy return

bounciness

"The Tempest offers a bouncier ride due to its Power Run PB super foam."

super foam

bouncy ride

cushioning

"The Ride 17 offers a more bouncy cushioning experience compared to previous models."

comfort

cushioning

resilience

"The cushioning is suitable for long runs without feeling too bouncy, which is preferred by the reviewer."

long run

cushion preference

"The high stack of PWRRUN midsole foam strikes a balance between impact protection and responsiveness, contributing to an energetic and responsive running experience."

PWRRUN foam

responsive

cushioning

"The use of PWRRUN+ foam in the sockliner provides immediate and comfortable step-in feel."

PWRRUN+

sockliner

step-in comfort

"The PWRRUN midsole offers a comfortable ride without being overly soft or heavy."

comfortable

balanced

midsole

"The Guide 17 manages to handle longer distances without sacrificing comfort."

comfort

long_run

support

"The shoe features a pillowy soft max cushioning that enhances comfort during runs."

max cushioning

impact absorption

comfort level

"The shoe's cushioning has been upgraded, providing additional comfort for long distances."

PWRRUN cushioning

added cushioning

forefoot comfort

"The midsole provides an ideal amount of cushioning for easy and recovery runs."

cushioning

recovery

comfortable

"The midsole material includes PowerRun and PowerRun Plus for enhanced comfort during runs."

comfort

PowerRun

PowerRun Plus

"The midsole has undergone a complete transformation, indicating enhanced performance characteristics."

midsole

cushioning

"The midsole is much improved, offering a lighter and squishier compound than previous versions."

power run

cushioning

lightweight

"The midsole has been enhanced for a softer feel and improved comfort during runs."

softness

power run

comfort

"The midsole material, Power Run, is durable and suitable for daily training."

midsole

Power Run

durability

"The midsole cushioning has been upgraded to Power Run Plus, offering a softer ride."

Power Run Plus

cushioned

dynamic

"The shoe uses PowerRun EVA in the midsole for a secure and lightweight ride."

PowerRun EVA

lightweight

secure ride

"The PWRRUN cushioning technology enhances both cushioning and stability in the shoe."

PWRRUN

cushioning

stability

"The Guide 17 offers good cushioning, beneficial for long and recovery runs."

cushioning

recovery runs

moderate runs

"The cushioning provided by PWRRUN is both springy and supportive without feeling excessively soft."

springy

cushioning

energy return

"The cushioning is soft yet provides stability, making the shoe suitable for various running styles."

cushioning

support

stability

"The high stack of PWRRUN midsole foam offers impact protection while remaining responsive and energetic."

PWRRUN foam

impact protection

energetic feel

"The overall design and stack height of the midsole provides consistent impact protection while maintaining responsiveness during runs."

impact protection

responsiveness

energy return

"The ASICS GT 2000 provides a responsive and comfortable midsole."

responsive

comfortable

midsole

"The high stack of PWRRUN midsole foam provides excellent protection from impact while being responsive and energetic."

PWRRUN foam

responsive

impact protection

"The shoe provides ample protection with its higher stack height."

stack height

cushioning

protection

"The use of PWRRUN+ in the sockliner creates immediate step-in comfort."

PWRRUN+

sockliner

step-in comfort

"The PWRRUN+ sockliner enhances immediate comfort upon stepping into the shoe."

PWRRUN+

sockliner

step-in comfort

"The PWRRUN midsole foam offers a high level of cushioning that balances impact protection with responsiveness."

PWRRUN

cushioning

"The full-length PowerRun foam enhances cushioning from heel to forefoot."

cushioning

comfort

"The shoe features a significantly increased amount of foam in the midsole, enhancing cushioning."

max cushion

midsole

comfort

"Testers reported that the Guide 17 improves midsole cushioning compared to its predecessor, the Guide 16."

cushioning

midsole

"The moderate cushioning strikes a good balance for comfort without feeling excessive."

cushioning

comfort

long runs

"The Saucony Guide 17 provides a comfortably cushioned experience with its unique PWRRUN foam."

cushioning

PWRRUN foam

comfort

protection

"The updated PowerRun midsole foam provides adequate cushioning, working well for daily runs and marathon training."

cushion

midsole

flexibility

"The cushioning is adequate for longer runs, providing good support without being overly bouncy."

cushioning

support

long runs

"The PowerRun foam is firmer than previous versions, providing better support without sacrificing comfort."

firmness

foundation

cushioning

"The increased stack height improves ride comfort and overall performance."

cushioning

comfort

"The cushioning in the GT2000 provides a bouncy and responsive ride."

responsive

cushioning

comfort

"Both models provide smooth transitions thanks to their rocker design."

transition

smooth

design

"The extra cushioning in the Guide 17 contributes to a plush running experience."

comfort

cushioning

support

"The shoe's cushioning feels more maximalist compared to prior versions, providing a plush running sensation."

cushioning

plush

maximalist

"The shoe features a Max cushioning design for enhanced comfort."

cushioning

comfort

design

"The cushioning in the heel is designed to be soft and comfortable."

cushioning

comfort

design

"The cushioning around the heel provides additional comfort upon step-in."

cushioning

comfort

"They have high cushioning, especially at the heel, enhancing the comfort of each step."

cushioning

heel comfort

"Ground contact EVA enhances comfort underfoot."

comfort

underfoot

material

"The guide 17 features a significant increase in stack height improving cushioning."

max cushion

stack height

cushioning

"The shoe maintains a balanced and neutral feel while providing cushioning."

balanced

neutral

cushioned

Cons

"The shoe lacks adequate springiness compared to other models."

springiness

cushioning

comfort

"The overall bounce during runs falls short compared to competitors."

bounce

cushioning

performance

"The shoe may not provide enough cushioning for runners expecting plush support."

cushion

support

long runs

"The shoe lacks sufficient energy return during runs."

energy return

cushioning

performance

"The shoe's cushioning may disconnect runners from the ground feel."

cushioning

ground connection

"Extra cushioning can result in a less responsive feel for some runners."

cushioning

responsiveness

"The foam does not provide enough responsiveness during runs."

foam

performance

"The cushioning, while comfortable, may not provide enough responsiveness for all runners."

cushion

responsiveness

"There is less energy return and responsiveness from the foam."

energy return

bounce

midsole

"There could be a lack of responsiveness during runs due to the soft cushioning."

responsiveness

cushioning

"The midsole is described as slightly stiff, potentially reducing comfort during runs."

stiffness

cushioning

comfort

"The perceived cushioning is described as minimum, contrasting with expectations."

cushioning

stack height

"The cushioning may not be supportive enough for some runners."

cushion

lightweight

"The cushion may diminish significantly once the sockliner wears out."

cushion loss

sockliner

durability

"The Guide 17's increased stack height may compromise ground feel for runners who prefer a more connected experience with the ground."

stack_height

ground connection

cushioning

"The cushioning may not be suitable for everyone due to its medium firmness."

cushioning

energy return

not too soft

"The midsole foam feels a bit firm after several runs."

firm

flexibility

"The shoe has a firmer midsole that doesn't feel as forgiving as previous versions."

cushion

firm

sluggish

"The overall cushioning might be perceived as less plush compared to other models."

cushioning

comparison

"The Triumph 22's lack of plush cushioning is marked as a downside."

cushioning

ride

"The cushioning system may feel insufficient for some runners."

cushioning

comfort

premium feel

"The shoe may not fit the preferences of runners who prefer more cushioning."

cushioning

heel-to-toe drop

"The cushioning is not as bouncy or springy as some may prefer, affecting the running experience."

cushioning

softness

"The reviewer dislikes the PowerRun midsole compared to the newer PowerRun Plus."

PowerRun

midsole

disappointment

"The shoe is described as not having a softer foam compared to other models."

foam

comfort

firmness

"The shoe does not cater well for runners who prefer a softer midsole."

midsole

softness

preferences

"The shoe’s cushioning may not be suitable for runners seeking a firmer ride."

cushioning

softness

comfort

"There is a suggestion for lowering the stack height, which could affect cushioning."

stack height

cushioning

"A firmer foam is suggested which may impact comfort."

foam

comfort

"The heel cushioning of both shoes might not cater to runners who prefer a very plush feel."

cushioning

heel padding

sensitivity

"The midsole cushioning of the Ride 17, while more resilient, may not provide the same feel for longer runs as the Guide 17."

resilience

feel

long runs

"Although designed for everyday runners, some may find that the shoe does not offer enough cushion for longer runs."

cushion

long runs

everyday use

"There's a reduction of cushioning in the new model compared to the previous version."

cushioning

stability

"The transition from the lightweight trainer feel to a max cushion may not appeal to all runners."

max cushion

training

weight

comfort
Breathability: Average

The most common feedback highlights that the shoe's comfort is often affected by its breathability and padding, with many users noting issues related to the upper's breathability and minimal padding.

breathability (6)

fit (4)

padding (4)

ride (2)

lightweight (2)

material (2)

tongue (2)

weight (2)

Pros

"The PWRRUN+ sockliner adds to the overall comfort and support of the shoe."

PWRRUN+

comfort

support

"The shoe provides excellent comfort with a plush feel underfoot, making it suitable for longer runs."

comfort

long runs

daily training

"The engineered mesh upper offers a breathable fit while securely holding the midfoot, contributing to overall comfort."

mesh upper

breathable

secure fit

"The shoe's upper is made from breathable mesh material, providing comfort and ventilation."

breathable

lightweight

mesh

"The breathability of the upper contributes to comfort during longer runs."

breathable

comfort

long runs

"The breathable engineered mesh upper provides a comfortable fit while securing the midfoot effectively."

mesh upper

secure fit

comfort

"The shoe incorporates breathability and adequate padding in its design."

breathability

padding

zero slippage

"The two-layer mesh upper offers decent breathability for various weather conditions."

mesh

temperature

weather

"The Guide 17 features a woven mesh upper that is breathable and adaptive to the foot."

breathable

adaptive

upper

"The engineered mesh upper improves breathability and stability while being lightweight."

breathability

lightweight

comfort

"The new mesh upper allows for better breathability and comfort for the foot."

upper

breathability

comfort

"The upper mesh is lightweight with good ventilation, keeping the feet cool during warmer conditions."

upper mesh

ventilation

"The engineered mesh upper is lightweight and breathable, contributing to a comfortable experience."

lightweight

breathable

upper material

"The cushioned heel collar and tongue enhance comfort significantly."

heel collar

tongue

cushion

"A well-cushioned heel collar and tongue enhance the overall comfort of the shoe."

heel collar

tongue

comfort

"The shoe provides a comfortable, cushioned experience for easy runs, contributing to an overall smooth ride."

cushion

comfort

easy runs

"The shoe provides a comfortable fit with ample cushioning."

comfort

cushioning

"The updated design includes maximum cushioning for comfort during longer runs."

lightweight

comfort

maximum cushioning

"They are suitable for various weather conditions, providing comfort and dryness."

weather versatility

multi-condition use

comfort across temperatures

"Testers noted the shoe is comfortable for a variety of runs, making it versatile for different activities."

versatile

different surfaces

variety

"The shoe prevents slippage and hot spots during runs."

no slippage

no blisters

comfort

"The Saucony Guide 17 provides a comfortable and smooth ride, making it enjoyable for runners."

smooth

cushioned

versatile

"The shoe provides a plush and comfortable ride during runs."

plush

comfortable

daily runs

"The padded upper around the tongue and collar adds to the overall comfort of the fit, enhancing the wearer's experience."

padded

comfortable fit

collar

"The shoe offers a super comfortable fit, which feels secure and snug around the foot."

comfortable

padding

heel

"The shoes provide a super comfortable fit with excellent upper design."

padding

breathable

space

"The Guide 17 provides a relaxed fit, making it comfortable for daily training."

relaxed fit

daily training

comfort

"These shoes are described as super comfortable, making them ideal for long runs."

comfort

padding

long runs

"The padded collar and tongue enhance overall comfort, ensuring a better fit."

padded collar

fit

"The cushioned heel collar and tongue contribute to an overall increase in comfort."

heel collar

tongue cushioning

comfort

"The Guide 17 features a moderately padded heel, enhancing comfort during runs."

padded heel

everyday running

comfort

"The shoe feels familiar and comfortable right from the start, giving a sense of reliability."

instant comfort

reliability

"The Guide 17 feels lightweight and almost disappears on the foot during runs."

lightweight

natural feel

comfort

"The shoes are very lightweight, making them easy to wear for long durations."

lightweight

running experience

"The Saucony Guide 17 emphasizes comfort and protection for runners."

comfort

protection

"The updated heel collar and tongue design enhances the overall comfort of the shoe."

comfort

plush

heel collar

"The shoe features a softer feel compared to its predecessor, enhancing overall comfort during runs."

soft

comfortable

running

shoe

"The removal of plastic components enhances the overall comfort of the shoe."

plastic

material

"The upper design has received high praise for its quality."

upper

design

quality

"The tongue of the shoe is plush and wraps around the foot for added comfort."

plush

locking

comfort

"The shoe features a plush and cushioned tongue for added comfort."

plush

cushion

tongue

"The shoe provides a plush heel that enhances support during runs."

plush

support

"The sock-like feel ensures a snug fit around the heel."

comfort

fit

"The Guide 17 has a nice balance between flexibility and firmness."

stiffness

comfort

"The new flex groove layout in the forefoot creates a softer feel underfoot, which adds to the comfort."

comfort

flex

"The upper features an engineered mesh that is both soft and supportive."

softness

mesh

fit

"The engineered mesh upper provides comfort and a good fit, contributing to an enjoyable running experience."

mesh

fit

comfort

"The upper design is expected to include comfortable laces and a padded tongue."

comfortable laces

padded tongue

comfortable upper

"The upper material has been redesigned to be softer and more accommodating for a roomier fit."

soft material

roomy fit

"The shoe features a wider design and higher sidewalls for improved stability and comfort."

geometry

sidewalls

"The shoes provide an excellent level of comfort, making them ideal for running."

squishiness

comfort

satisfaction

"Users report minimal discomfort during use, making them suitable for daily running."

pain-free

comfort

"The shoe features high-quality insoles that are thick and comfortable, enhancing the overall comfort during runs."

insoles

comfort

bouncy

Cons

"The shoe lacks a lively bounce in its ride."

comfort

bounce

"The reduction in tongue padding may affect comfort for some runners."

comfort

tongue padding

"The padding on the tongue and heel collar is on the more minimal side."

padding

comfort

fit

"The heel counter's reduced padding may not appeal to everyone."

heel counter

padding

personal preference

"The upper of the Endorphin Pro 4 has minimal padding which may affect comfort."

minimal padding

lightweight

comfort

"There was a hot spot on the foot during runs, which affected comfort."

hot spot

discomfort

"The upper may not provide sufficient breathability compared to other models."

breathability

fit

"The engineered mesh upper, while fitting well, might not provide adequate breathability for long runs."

mesh

upper

breathability

"Breathability is average and may not be suitable for extreme conditions."

breathability

temperature management

"The updated upper may detract from breathability compared to prior models."

upper design

comfort

breathability

"The upper of the Triumph 22 is not as breathable compared to other models."

breathability

upper

mesh

"The shoe may not provide the best breathability despite having a new mesh upper."

breathability

upper material

"The increase in cushioning may not appeal to those preferring a firmer feel."

cushioned

comfort

"The weight of the shoe can make it feel heavy during longer runs."

cushion

heavy

long run

"The upper may be padded, leading to concerns about the shoe's overall weight."

weight

padding

comfort

"Some may find the shoe's response and firmness less suitable depending on individual preferences."

stability

personal preference

"The Guide 17 has a firmer midsole, which some may find less comfortable."

firm

midsole

comfort

"Some reviewers found the upper to lack a premium feel compared to other models."

upper

comfort

premium feel

"The shoe's overall feel was noted as 'base-level' by some testers, which may not appeal to those seeking luxury."

comfort

standard feel

"The upper material does not provide a premium feel despite being soft."

upper

luxury

comfort

"The softer upper material may not suit those desiring a different texture or support."

softness

texture

"Some made comparisons to higher end Saucony models which might have overshadowed expectations."

comparison

expectations

luxury

"The review suggests that the Guide 17 does not provide the same level of comfort as the GT 2000, potentially affecting long runs."

comfort

comparison

long runs

"The shoe feels somewhat firm and blocky at first."

firm

blocky

initial discomfort

"The shoe lacks sufficient protection for longer distances."

long distances

protection

"The shoe takes time to break in before becoming comfortable."

break-in

mechanics

"The comfort may initially seem inadequate due to the heel bevel design."

heel bevel

uncomfortable

"The upper is considered standard and lacks innovation."

upper

innovation

"The Tempest has a stiffer heel which may not be comfortable for all runners."

stiffness

padding

comfort

"Some previous versions were more comfortable than the Guide 17."

comfort

comparison

"The flexibility of the Guide 17 may not suit those who like a more rigid shoe."

flexibility

stiffness

comfort

"The upper of the Guide 17 is stiffer than the Ride 17, possibly affecting overall comfort for certain runners."

stiffness

padding

comfort

"While the shoe focuses on comfort, it may not suit runners who prefer a firmer feel underfoot."

soft

cushioning

comfort

"The shoe's updated design may not appeal to everyone who preferred the previous stability features."

stability

design

comparison

"The Guide 17 does not deliver a premium feel compared to other shoes."

premium

comfort

durability

The main concerns about the shoe's durability include issues with the outsole's rubber coverage and performance on trails, which were mentioned frequently.

outsole (9)

weight (5)

material (2)

longevity (2)

wear resistance (1)

flexibility (1)

breathability (1)

structural (1)

Pros

"Good durability after extensive mileage, showing little wear and tear."

durability

long-lasting

mileage

"Despite its wider design and increased stack height, the Guide 17 maintains a similar lightweight feel compared to its predecessor, the Guide 16."

lightweight

wider design

stack height

"The Guide 17 is lighter than many of its stability competitors, making it a favorable choice."

lightweight

stability

"Testers noted that the Guide 17 remains lightweight compared to other stability shoes, making it a favorable option."

lightweight

stability

durability

"The shoe maintains the same weight as the previous model, despite being chunkier, showing good engineering."

weight

engineering

"The shoe has a significantly lighter build compared to its predecessors, making it more enjoyable to run in."

lightweight

improved performance

"The shoe maintains flexibility in the forefoot for easier movement during runs."

flexibility

forefoot

"The lightweight breathable mesh contributes to the shoe's overall comfort and durability."

mesh

breathable

"The shoe's durability is improved with added rubber on the outsole for increased longevity."

outsole

durability

long-lasting

"The shoe's durability is highlighted, making it a reliable option for marathon training and long-distance running."

durability

marathon training

long distance

"Constructed with durable materials, the Guide 17 is built to last through extensive training."

durability

midsole

training

"The outsole has shown minimal wear after 100 miles, indicating good durability for long-term use."

durability

outsole

wear resistance

"The outsole incorporates rubber in high abrasion areas for durability."

durability

design

material

"The ASICS GT 2000 has an improved outsole compared to previous models."

outsole

improved

durable

"The reliable outsole maintains durability after initial runs, despite the reduced rubber coverage."

durability

outsole

reliability

"The outsole rubber is noted for its durability and high coverage."

durability

outsole

"Both shoes have shown excellent durability even after extensive use."

durability

long-lasting

mileage

"The shoe has a solid level of durability thanks to its sturdy construction."

durability

sturdy

"The shoe has a good amount of rubber on the bottom for durability without excessive weight."

rubber

durability

balanced

"The shoe uses durable rubber for enhanced traction and longevity."

durability

traction

high quality

"Durability has been excellent with both shoes after extensive use."

excellent durability

long-lasting

"The shoe is durable, maintaining its structure well even after significant mileage, indicating good longevity."

durable

longevity

"The shoe is designed to handle a high mileage of up to 400 miles or more."

durability

high mileage

outsole

"The strategically placed rubber on the outsole reduces weight while maintaining necessary durability in high-impact areas."

outsole

durability

lightweight

Cons

"The exposed outsole may detract from durability."

durability

outsole

"The outsole durability on trails was found lacking by testers, limiting its versatility."

outsole

trail

"The outsole's minimal rubber coverage raises durability concerns."

rubber

exposed foam

"Some testers reported early signs of wear on the outsole, indicating potential durability issues."

wear

durability

"The outsole durability is inadequate for trail running, limiting the shoe's versatility on different terrains."

trail

versatility

"The shoe's performance on trails can be lacking due to outsole durability issues."

trail

durability

performance

"The outsole performance on trails may not be adequate for various terrains."

trail

performance

"The Guide 17's outsole did not perform well on uneven terrain."

outdoor

trail

performance

"The outsole appears to be less durable due to its exposed rubber design."

durability

design

"The outsole's durability cannot be assessed within a short mileage period."

outsole

durability

assessment

"The reviewer is uncertain about the shoe's longevity due to early wear."

longevity

concern

wear

"The shoe may not be as breathable as previous models, leading to discomfort."

breathability

comfort

"The outsole has lots of exposed foam, which could reduce durability."

exposed foam

outsole

"Some runners might find the weight to be slightly heavier than desired."

weight

heaviness

running performance

"The shoe may not be the lightest available despite being chunkier."

weight

chunkiness

"The overall weight of the shoe is still relatively heavy for some runners."

heaviness

comparison

running

"The shoe may feel heavier due to the increased stack height and additional materials."

heaviness

stack height

material

"The new shoe is heavier than its predecessor, which may impact performance."

weight

performance

"Potential concerns regarding durability over time given the lightweight nature."

lightweight

minimal layers

"The lack of rubber coverage on the outsole is noted as a downside for durability."

outsole

rubber coverage

durability

"The shoe has less blown rubber compared to previous models, which may affect durability."

blown rubber

durability

previous models

"The shoe has reduced rubber coverage on the outsole compared to previous versions, raising concerns about durability."

outsole

coverage

durability

"The reviewer needs more time to assess the durability and wear of the outsole after initial runs."

durability

outsole

mileage

"The foam shows significant wear after just 50 miles of use."

wear

foam

mileage

performance
Distance suited: Long (>20km)
Rocker: More rocker

The main issues with the shoe are its lack of responsiveness and heavier weight, which were mentioned frequently and may affect performance during faster runs.

responsiveness (7)

weight (5)

rocker (5)

speed (5)

smoothness (4)

ride (3)

versatility (2)

forward motion (2)

Pros

"The Guide 17 enables an extremely smooth transition thanks to its innovative design and flexible forefoot."

smooth

daily runs

flexible

"The Guide 17 allows for a smooth transition through foot strikes due to its lowered drop and rocker profile."

smooth transition

rocker profile

lower drop

"The shoe provides a smooth transition and glide during runs, enhancing performance."

smooth

glide

performance

"The updated design includes a new rocket geometry in the midsole, meant to provide better transitioning from heel to toe."

rocket geometry

midsole

"The grooves in the outsole enhance heel-to-toe transition for a smoother running experience."

smooth transition

outsole

running performance

"This shoe accommodates different types of runs, making it versatile for various paces and distances."

daily runs

uptempo work

consistent pace

"Runners of all experience levels find the Guide 17 versatile and suitable for different types of runs."

versatile

everyday trainer

easy runs

speedwork

"The increased stack makes the shoe more versatile for longer runs."

versatility

long_runs

"The Tempest shoe is lightweight, offering versatility for both training and racing."

lightweight

racing

training

versatility

"Lightweight construction adds to the overall performance, making it versatile across different distances."

versatile

lightweight

performance

"The shoe maintains a light weight, which is a positive for longer runs."

lightweight

long-distance

comfortable

"The lightweight design enhances agility without compromising stability."

lightweight

agility

stability

"The shoe feels lighter and more energetic than its predecessor, improving the running experience."

lightweight

energetic

"The incorporated rocker design promotes forward motion, making running feel easier and more efficient."

rocker design

efficiency

gait cycle

"The incorporated rocker design promotes natural forward motion during the gait cycle."

rocker design

gait cycle

"The Guide 17 offers a lightweight and nimble feel during runs."

nimble

lighter

performance

"The shoe features excellent bounce and responsiveness, enhancing the running experience."

responsive

fun

performance

"The shoe's Center Path Technology effectively guides the runner's foot forward."

center path technology

performance improvement

foot guidance

"The running experience feels smooth thanks to the rocker-shaped geometry of the midsole."

rocker-shaped geometry

energy efficiency

smooth transitions

"The Guide 17 features a smooth ride that enhances the running experience."

cushioned

smooth

running experience

"The shoe's rocker design contributes to a smooth running experience."

performance

rocker

"The shoe facilitates a smooth running experience, contributing to a better overall performance."

smooth run

performance

"The shoe allows for a smooth and efficient forward motion due to its rocker effect during strides."

rocker

smooth

efficient

"The incorporation of rocker-shaped geometry supports smoother forward motion."

rocker geometry

forward motion

energy conservation

"The combination of control and comfort makes them reliable for various training runs."

control

training

performance

"The shoe performs well across varied paces, providing good responsiveness."

varied paces

good responsiveness

stability

"The 6mm heel-to-toe drop provides a smooth transition and natural feel during runs."

heel drop

smooth transition

"The combination of cushioning and design makes the shoe feel natural and supportive throughout the run."

natural gait

supportive

comfortable

"The design of the shoe includes a rocker shape that facilitates forward motion with less energy required."

rocker

forward motion

"The incorporated rocker in the shoe design promotes a more effortless running experience and encourages forward motion."

rocker

forward motion

effortless running

"The new rocker design helps transition runners smoothly from heel to toe, which enhances performance."

smooth transition

performance

rocker design

"The rocker design in the midsole significantly improves the shoe's performance during runs."

performance

rocker design

"The updated geometry includes a significant rocker design that improves the running experience."

geometry

rocker

running_experience

"The rockered bottom design aids in smooth transitions while running or walking."

rockered bottom

smooth transitions

"The shoe performs well in slippery weather, providing confidence in various conditions."

slip resistant

confidence

"Both shoes perform well for daily training and long runs."

daily training

stability

long runs

"The initial running experience in the shoe was enjoyable and promising."

running experience

performance

"Both shoes serve well as daily trainers."

daily trainers

versatile

"A lower drop of 6 mm offers a more natural running experience."

natural

performance

"The shoe's responsive nature enhances the running experience, making it enjoyable."

responsive

performance

good option

"The shoe is designed to facilitate a smoother stride with a rocker-shaped sole."

rocker sole

stride

transition

"The shoe maintains class-leading power run technology, contributing to overall performance."

performance

power run

"The shoe maintains its class-leading power run technology, enhancing performance."

power run

performance

technology

Cons

"The initial heel transition feels somewhat clunky due to the design of the shoe."

heel transition

clunky feel

"Less responsive feel during uptempo runs compared to other shoes."

uptempo

responsiveness

"The shoe lacks responsiveness, making it less suitable for speed work."

speed

training

performance

"The shoe lacks responsiveness due to the foam material."

foam

energy return

PWRRUN+

"The shoe's soft midsole, while comfortable, may not provide enough responsiveness for those needing firmer support."

midsole

PWRRUN

responsiveness

"The shoe may not provide sufficient responsiveness for those looking for a bouncier feel."

responsiveness

bounciness

"The new flex groove layout, while adding cushioning, could affect ground feel and responsiveness."

flex grooves

cushioning

ground feel

"The shoe doesn't feel as responsive as the previous model, potentially affecting performance."

responsiveness

performance

"The Guide 17 is less agile compared to its predecessors."

performance

agility

"The shoe is more suited for slower pace runs rather than speed workouts."

speedwork

pace

performance

"The shoe is not suitable for high-speed runs or competitive racing."

performance

speed

training

"The shoe may not provide speed advantages during races."

training

race performance

"The shoe does not perform well for speed in short distance runs."

short distances

performance

"The shoe may not offer significant speed advantages for competitive runners."

competition

training

"The shoe may not be suitable for racing or personal best attempts."

racing

"The midsole delivers only a subtle energy return, which is not ideal for those looking for a more responsive feel."

energy return

performance

"The shoe's weight is average, lacking any standout quality for faster performances."

weight

performance

"The shoe weighs more than its predecessor, which could affect performance."

weight

performance

"The shoe is heavy, which may not be ideal for faster runs."

heavy

speed

"The shoe may not be suitable for serious tempo runs due to its weight."

tempo runs

easy day

"The shoe feels heavier than expected for a daily trainer."

weight

daily trainer

"The shoe may not suit runners looking for a firmer and more directed feel during their runs due to its softer cushioning."

cushioning

plush

feel

"The shoe lacks specific feedback on performance over long distances."

mileage

performance feedback

"The switch to Center Path Technology may not appeal to those who preferred the previous model's features."

center path

hollow-tech

comparison

"The shoe feels dense and sluggish initially."

sluggish

dense

"The shoe is not versatile for faster pacing."

speed

fast pacing

versatility

"The shoe feels like a dedicated stability shoe, lacking versatility."

performance

versatile

stability

"The shoe's performance in slippery conditions is noted to be acceptable but not specified."

slippery conditions

acceptability

"The Guide 17 is more suitable for easy-paced running and may not perform well in speed workouts."

performance

easy pace

"The ride does not feel particularly exciting or enjoyable compared to rivals."

performance

ride

versatility

"The Guide 17 has a rockered ride that might not offer the bounce some runners prefer."

rockered

bounce

performance

"Even though the Guide 17 uses Power Run mids, it does not offer much excitement in terms of ride."

boring

performance

mids

"The Ride 17 has been characterized as more of a cruiser versus a serious performance shoe, which may limit its appeal for speed-focused runners."

cruiser

performance

uptempo

"The shoe is designed primarily for daily miles and may not perform optimally for speed workouts."

daily miles

speed

training

"The cushioning in the heel area might be too soft for some runners, possibly affecting performance."

soft

comfort

performance

"The shoe does not provide a mind-blowing experience, which some runners might expect from a high-performance shoe."

experience

performance

surprise

"There are concerns that increasing the stack height may impact the shoe's performance and its relationship with other models in the lineup."

stack height

performance

comparison

"Changes in design elements such as cutouts could lead to performance issues as they attempt innovations seen in competitor shoes."

cutouts

design

performance

"The performance of the Endorphin Pro 4 may feel stiffer than desired."

stiffness

performance

"The shoe lacks significant bounce back, which may hinder performance during runs."

bounce

performance

long runs

fit
True to size: True to size
Toebox width: Wider
Heel width: Average
Orthotic friendly: No

The most common feedback about the shoe is that it fits true to size, which is mentioned frequently, while some users noted that the fit may not be ideal for all foot shapes, particularly feeling too snug or too wide in certain areas.

width (7)

lockdown (5)

customization (3)

secure (3)

true to size (2)

size (2)

comfort (2)

upper (2)

Pros

"The fit of the shoe is true to size, providing a secure yet comfortable experience for various foot shapes."

secure fit

width

comfort

"The shoe fits true to size, accommodating different foot shapes well and offering a secure lockdown."

true to size

secure fit

accommodating

"The upper is designed to provide good stretch and security, enhancing overall comfort."

flexible

secure

comfort

"The spacious upper design accommodates wider feet, enhancing comfort during runs."

spacious

comfort

"The mid-range toe box width contributes to its comfort and fit."

toe box

fit

comfort

"The shoe offers a wide fit option, which is beneficial for runners needing extra space."

wide fit

spacious

"The design of the shoes provides a spacious toe box, enhancing comfort for wider feet."

toe box

spacious

comfort for wider feet

"The Guide 17 fits exceptionally well, providing a nice balance of security and space for wider feet."

fit

comfort

space

"The shoe's fit has been improved with a slightly wider design, which enhances comfort during runs."

fit

wide

secure

"The shoe features a wider toe box for enhanced comfort and fit."

toe box

fit

comfort

"The shoe molds well to the foot, providing customized support especially for runners with specific arch needs."

fit

arch support

adaptability

"The updated design features extra eyelets that allow for customized lacing techniques for an improved fit."

lacing

custom fit

marathon loop

"The gusseted tongue and additional eyelets enhance the fit and customization of lacing."

gusseted tongue

eyelets

custom lacing

"The shoe is true to size, ensuring a proper fit for many runners."

true to size

fit

comfort

"The shoe fits true to size, making it easy for runners to select their correct size."

true to size

fit

"The shoe fits true to size, which is a significant advantage."

fit

true_size

"The fit of the shoe is excellent, allowing for comfort during easy runs as well as stability throughout the gait cycle."

true to size

fit

"Both shoes have a good fit and are true to size."

true to size

good fit

"The fit of the shoes is true to size, which enhances comfort and usability."

true to size

fit

"The shoe fits true to size and provides a secure and locked-down fit, which is essential for stability."

true to size

lockdown

"The shoe's upper is designed to be breathable and hold its shape well, improving comfort during runs."

upper

breathable

shape

"The upper of the Guide 17 boasts breathability and a roomy toe box for a comfortable fit."

breathable

spacious

secure

"The updated mesh upper provides breathability while securing the midfoot."

mesh upper

breathability

midfoot security

"The Guide 17 features a breathable upper that accommodates varying foot shapes, enhancing fit and comfort."

breathable

fit

comfort

stretch

"The mesh upper provides breathability and a soft, supportive fit."

breathability

support

"The engineered mesh upper provides excellent breathability."

breathable

mesh

upper

"The shoe does not require a break-in period, ensuring instant comfort upon wearing."

true to size

no break-in

comfortable fit

"The roomy toe box provides comfort and prevents cramping during runs."

roomy

comfort

fit

"The gusseted tongue and extra eyelets enhance the adjustable fit of the shoe."

adjustable

comfort

fit

"Runners experience a secure and locked-down fit with the shoe's upper."

fit

snug

wiggle room

"The uppers of both shoes provide excellent lockdown with no slippage."

comfort

fit

stability

"Added lockdown features in the midfoot enhance security during runs."

security

support

design

"The shoe offers a secure fit with good lockdown, enhancing comfort during runs."

fit

comfort

no hot spots

"The shoe provides an improved upper that effectively locks the foot in place."

upper

foot lock

fit

"The gusseted tongue helps the shoe maintain its position during runs."

gusseted tongue

lacing techniques

comfort

"The shoe's accommodating fit minimizes slippage, blisters, and hot spots during runs."

accommodating

secure

no blisters

"FORMFIT technology offers a snug and personalized fit, adapting to the shape of the foot."

FORMFIT

personalized fit

comfort

"The breathable mesh upper keeps feet cool and dry while providing ample room."

breathable

roomy

cooling

"The engineered mesh upper provides good fit and padding, enhancing overall comfort."

mesh construction

padding

good fit

"The Guide 17 fits true to size, providing a reliable fit for various foot shapes."

true to size

fit

variation

"The padded heel collar and snug midfoot contribute to a locked-down feel."

locked-down

padded heel collar

wider forefoot

"The engineered mesh upper provides breathability while securing the midfoot for a comfortable fit."

breathability

fit

mesh

"The shoe maintains a comfortable and secure fit, accommodating different foot shapes."

fit

comfort

"The fit of the Tempest allows for a secure lockdown, enhancing performance."

secure fit

lockdown

performance

"Despite the changes, the shoe maintains a good lockdown fit at the heel for secure wear."

lockdown fit

heel fit

"The shoe's upper offers a snug, locked-down fit while maintaining breathability and zero slippage."

fit

locked-down

breathability

"The upper of the shoe provides a snug and accommodating fit."

fit

breathability

padding

"The improved upper design provides more room, contributing to a better fit and comfort."

fit

upper

comfortable

"The heel counter provides a more roomy fit than the previous model, enhancing comfort."

heel

roominess

"Going down half a size allows for a better fit without discomfort during runs."

fit

half size down

"The shoe features a roomier toe box compared to older models."

fit

roominess

"The Guide 17 offers a better fit for runners needing extra toe box space."

fit

space

comfort

"Both shoes have a lightweight design, making them great for faster paces."

lightweight

performance

"The traditional lacing system allows for customizable support."

support

fit

adjustability

"The upper of the shoe has been completely redesigned, contributing to a fresher fit and feel."

upper

design

"The overlays on the upper add structure for additional support while maintaining comfort."

support

cushioning

"The shoe incorporates Centerpath technology for improved fit."

fit

support

"The shoe fits a wide range of foot shapes comfortably without issues."

fit

heel lock

wide toe box

"The updated design includes a gusset for improved lockdown around the midfoot."

gusset

lockdown

midfoot

"The shoes show no heel slippage, providing a secure fit during runs."

heel slip

fit

stability

"The fit of the shoe has been improved, offering a roomier feel which enhances comfort for various foot shapes."

fit

comfort

toe box

"The improved upper design locks the foot down effectively during runs."

fit

upper

Cons

"Secure midfoot fit may feel slightly snug for some runners."

snug fit

midfoot security

"The rigid heel counter may be uncomfortable for runners sensitive to stiff materials."

stiff counter

sensitivity

"The shoe runs a bit large, which can affect fit and comfort."

sizing

fit

comfort

"The fitting of the Triumph 22 is off, being too large in the toe box."

big fit

toe box

length

"The fit may not be snug around the midfoot."

fit

snugness

"The upper lacks a premium feel compared to higher-end models."

upholstery

perceived quality

"The upper lacks a premium feel, which may not meet expectations for some users."

upper

material

feel

"The fit may not be ideal for all foot shapes, leading to discomfort."

fit

personalized

"The Guide 17 may feel less versatile than its predecessor for daily training."

versatile

daily trainer

"While the shoes are comfortable, they may not hug the foot tightly, which might not suit everyone."

fit

comfort

"The tongue is short and can cause discomfort during runs."

tongue length

discomfort

laces

"There is a lack of diverse fit options for people with different foot shapes."

fit options

high arches

foot shape

"Some users may experience issues with fit due to the upper design."

upper design

spacious

personalized fit

"The toe box may feel too wide for certain runners."

toe box

fit

"Some runners might find the Guide 17's snug fit to be less accommodating than they prefer."

fit

forefoot width

midfoot width

"The wide platform may not be ideal for runners with narrower feet."

wide

fit

narrow

comfort

"The shoe's fit could be less accommodating for runners with wider feet."

fit

wider feet

"The engineered mesh may cause fit issues for runners with wider feet due to its tighter design."

engineered mesh

fit issues

tight

"The narrower fit may not be suitable for runners with wider feet."

wide feet

fit preference

"The heel-to-toe drop is lower compared to previous versions which may not suit all runners."

drop

heel-to-toe

fit preference

"The change to a lower drop might not suit all runners."

heel drop

maximalist

"The upper design of the shoe irritates the heel collar."

heel collar

irritation

"There may be too much emphasis on guiding the foot, which could feel restrictive for some runners."

medial pressure

restrictive

"The overall fit is satisfactory but not exceptionally praised against competitive shoes."

fit

competition

disappointment

"The snug fit of the Tempest might be uncomfortable for those who prefer a looser fit."

fit

snug

"The shoe may not provide a snug fit for those who prefer it."

snug fit

personal preference

"The shoe felt a bit uncomfortable after prolonged use due to improper lacing."

fit

uncomfortable

lacing

"The shoe’s lacing system is described as just standard and may not cater to specific needs for all runners."

standard

adjustability

design

"Some runners with specific foot conditions might find the lower toe box of the Ride 17 uncomfortable."

toe box

uncomfortable

foot conditions

"The fit might not suit all runners due to changes in the shoe's geometry."

fit

geometry

runners

"The shoe's upper material is not highly breathable."

material

cooling

comfort

"The different design philosophy may require another adjustment period for runners accustomed to earlier models."

fit

adjustment

risk

"The Pro 4's fit might not be ideal for everyone due to its snug design."

snug fit

design

comfort

"The shoe feels notably clunky during runs due to its design."

fit

clunky

"The laces in the new model lack the quality of the previous version, which could affect fit."

laces

fit

"The shoe features very high arches, which may not be suitable for everyone."

fit

arch support

universal suitability

stability
Stability level: Average

The main concerns about the shoe's stability are that many users feel it doesn't provide enough support, especially for overpronators, and some find the stability features either too harsh or excessive.

support (8)

technology (7)

design (5)

level (4)

platform (3)

guidance (3)

harshness (3)

ride (2)

Pros

"It provides a stable platform without intrusive medial pressure, ideal for runners needing mild guidance."

stable platform

non-intrusive

sidewalls

"The redesigned features allow for a wider base and a smooth heel-to-toe transition, enhancing stability during runs."

stable

heel-to-toe

smooth transitions

"The Saucony Guide 17 has enhanced stability features that promote a secure run."

stability

secure

support

"The Guide 17 offers smooth transitions thanks to its new rocker design."

rocker

transitions

stability

"The shoe features advanced support technology that enhances stability during runs."

support technology

stability

cushioning

"It offers excellent stability due to its broader base and advanced technology."

stability

center path technology

supportive base

"The Saucony Guide 17 offers dependable stability and protection during runs."

stability

protection

daily use

"The Saucony Guide 17 provides excellent stability for overpronators."

overpronation

stability frame

momentum

"CenterPath Technology provides targeted support to prevent overpronation."

CenterPath Technology

overpronation

support

"The shoe delivers effective anti-pronation support suitable for midfoot and forefoot strikers."

anti-pronation

midfoot support

"The shoe offers anti-pronation support that accommodates different foot strike patterns like midfoot and forefoot."

anti-pronation

midfoot support

forefoot support

"The Saucony Guide 17 employs Center Path Technology to enhance stability without restricting movement."

Center Path Technology

stability

foot guidance

"The shoe provides effective structural support specifically for overpronators."

overpronation

firm midsole

durability

"The Saucony Guide 17 provides excellent stability for overpronators, ensuring a more balanced stride."

stability

overpronation

momentum

"The Saucony Guide 17 provides exceptional stability for overpronators."

overpronation

stability

frame

"The shoe's design incorporates a supportive platform while avoiding overly severe stability features, allowing a more natural feel."

stability

natural feel

support

"The updated design enhances stability significantly."

stability

support

design

"The stability features in the shoe efficiently support the foot without feeling cumbersome."

stability

supportive

midsole

"The support provided by the shoes is commendable, ensuring stability during runs."

support

stability

running

"The shoe provides medial support to help with impact distribution and protect the foot and ankle during runs."

medial support

impact distribution

"The introduction of Center PATH technology allows for guided foot movement without strong medial posting."

Center PATH

stability

medial support

"The shoes provide good support for stability during long runs."

supportive

long runs

"Its broad midsole design contributes to the stability and smooth transition from landing to toe-off."

midsole

toe-off

landing stability

"The wider platform provides enhanced stability without additional support pieces."

stability

wider base

over pronation

"The Saucony Guide 17 has a wide and supportive platform for stability during runs."

stability

support

wide

"The broader platform design provides better support and comfort during runs."

broader platform

support

comfort

"The Saucony Guide 17 provides effective guidance without being overly corrective, thanks to its innovative technology."

Center Path Technology

minimal correction

stability

"The Saucony Guide 17 features Center Path Technology, which effectively guides runners while reducing excessive movement."

Center Path Technology

stability

support

"The use of Center Path technology provides a softer guiding stability for a more comfortable run."

stability

Center Path

dynamic

"The shoe provides a modern approach to stability without being intrusive."

non-intrusive

accommodating

support

"The Center Path Technology contributes to a feeling of stability and comfort."

technology

comfort

stability

"The shoe features a stable ride which aids in comfortable running experiences."

stable

comfortable

"The Guide 17 offers a stable and smooth ride."

smooth ride

stability

comfort

"The Center Path Technology makes the shoe feel smoother and more accommodating."

Center Path Technology

smooth ride

accommodating

"The Guide 17 is versatile and suits a variety of foot shapes."

versatility

gait cycle

adaptability

"The new Center Path technology significantly enhances stability for overpronators."

stability

pronation

support

"The Guide 17 features innovative CenterPath Technology for enhanced stability."

CenterPath Technology

stability

wider platform

"The Center Path Technology provides effective guidance to runners."

Center Path Technology

guidance

"The innovative Center Path Technology offers improved stability and support without being obtrusive."

stability

guidance

support

"The Center Path Technology allows for a smoother and more holistic support experience."

Center Path Technology

gait cycle

smooth

"The shoe's stability is enhanced by its wide design, allowing for a supportive experience without feeling cumbersome."

wide

supportive

stability

"A redesign of the support structure enhances the shoe's overall performance without the traditional medial post."

support structure

rockered ride

"The Guide 17 offers a modern stability design that's lighter and more comfortable than past models."

stability

comfort

lightweight

"The shoe features a revolutionary update with a geometry-focused stability design."

stability

innovation

geometry

"The shoe features a revolutionary update in its design for better stability."

geometry

stability

update

"The use of subtle stability features in the Guide 17 enhances its performance for overpronators and neutral runners alike."

subtle

support

overpronation

"The shoe features a wider base and higher sidewalls that enhance stability during runs."

base width

sidewalls

"The shoe adapts well to the user's unique stride and running style."

support

running style

reliable

"The shoe's new geometry enhances stability and comfort without the need for a medial post."

broader base

midsole geometry

stability

"The flared geometry adds stability with a secure feel during running."

wider platform

secure feel

flared design

"The redesigned support structure enhances stability and support without adding weight or bulk."

support structure

stability

"The overall design allows it to serve as an option for both stable and neutral runners due to its holistic support."

holistic support

neutral runners

versatile

"The shoe still offers stability features, catering to a variety of runners' needs."

stability

neutral

"The Saucony Guide 17 features innovative stability technology that accommodates various foot shapes."

Center Path Technology

support

overpronation

"The Center Path Technology enhances the smoothness of the ride, compared to previous versions."

smoother ride

accommodating

arch profiles

"This shoe is ideal for runners needing mild to moderate stability."

stability

daily training

"The Center Path Technology enhances the shoe's performance throughout the entire gait cycle, not just during landings."

Center Path Technology

gait cycle

guidance

"The inherent stability from the width of the shoe is excellent."

stability

design

"The support features work well without being intrusive for neutral runners."

stability

neutral support

"The Ride 17 has some stability features improving its neutral stance."

neutral

support

base

"The removal of the post in the shoe design allows for a lighter and more comfortable experience."

lightweight

removal

stability

"The Sakon Guide 17 offers great forward motion and support."

centered ride

lateral support

medial support

"The Guide 17 provides excellent stability through built-up sidewalls."

pronation

support

control

"Increased sidewall heights contribute to a sense of security."

security

cushion

design

"The wide base in the Guide 17 enhances its stability significantly."

stability

forefoot

support

"The shoe provides excellent stability during runs, accommodating both medial and lateral movements."

stability

medial

lateral

"The shoe features a wider base which enhances its stability and support."

wider_base

stability

"The shoe has a wide platform that adds to the feeling of security and comfort."

stability

security

platform

"The shoe is a significant revamp from previous models and feels improved."

redesign

stability

"The ASICS GT 2000 features a well-designed 3D guidance system for stability."

guidance system

stability

design

"The shoe features a higher stack and wider base, contributing to increased stability."

wide base

support

"The updated drop of 6 mm is beneficial for reducing stress on the IT band."

heel-toe drop

IT band

stability

"The new stability features maintain effectiveness without a medial post."

stability

flexibility

no medial post

"The new design eliminates the stiff guide rails, improving comfort."

supportive

comfort

design

"The broader base enhances stability during runs."

stability

fit

"The shoe provides a wide base for a more stable ride that spreads the forces better."

wide base

force distribution

stability

"The shoe has a broad base which contributes to stability during movement."

broad base

stability

"The Guide 17 maintains its identity as a stability shoe aimed at overpronators."

overpronation

stability

daily trainer

"The shoe is expected to provide inherent stability through its wider base design."

wider base

inherent stability

stable platform

"The Guide 17 features a modern approach to stability without the traditional medial post."

stability

modern design

cushioning

"The shoe provides excellent stability due to its wider midsole and custom designed side walls."

stability

midsole

lateral support

"The shoe provides full ground contact, enhancing stability while running."

ground contact

stability

"The full ground contact outer sole enhances stability during runs."

ground contact

outer sole

"The shoes are ideal for runners with a tendency to over-pronate, as they support inward gait."

over-pronation

gait support

Cons

"The heel bevel may feel a bit clunky until the shoe breaks in."

heel bevel

clunky sensation

"The shoe lacks strong medial arch support due to the absence of the previous medial post."

medial support

arch support

"Some runners may find the stability offered by the Guide 17 insufficient for their needs."

stability

suitability

"The higher sidewalls may not provide adequate support for over-pronators in all conditions."

over-pronation

stability

sidewalls

"There is some hit against the support structure in heavy usage situations."

support

guidance

"Although the shoe felt softer overall, it may lack the firmer support experienced in earlier models."

softness

stability

comparison

"The removal of the medial post could lead to instability for users accustomed to more traditional support features."

removal

instability

support

"The new medial support technology feels strange compared to previous models, which could affect stability."

medial support

stability

"The shoe's updated support may not offer sufficient stability for some runners."

Center PATH technology

medial post

support

"The stability offered by the shoe is not as pronounced as some might expect from a stability shoe."

stability

support

"There may be inadequate support for extreme overpronation."

overpronation

arch support

"Some runners found the stability technology too harsh for lower arches."

stability

arch support

"Runners with higher arches may still find the stability technology too harsh."

stability

arch support

"Some reviewers found the stability technology felt harsh compared to previous models."

stability

technology

previous models

"Some runners may find the stability features too pronounced."

stability

pronation

"The shoe lacks traditional medial posting which some runners may find inadequate for overpronation support."

overpronation

support

medial posting

"The stability features are diminished due to the removal of the medial post."

stability

shoe design

medial post

"Higher sidewalls may not accommodate all foot shapes."

stability

foot shapes

"The Guide 17 may not provide adequate stability for those needing higher levels of support."

stability

support

"The Guide 17 may not provide enough stability for certain runners."

stability

support

"The Guide 17 may not provide enough stability for runners seeking higher levels of support."

stability

support

"The Guide 17 may not provide sufficient stability for some runners."

stability

support

inadequate

"The stability features may feel excessive for some runners, which can impact comfort."

stability

comfort

"The stability features are less noticeable compared to previous models."

stability

performance

width

"The shoe has a wide base that may not be suitable for speed work or tempo runs."

stability

wide base

speed

"The shoe felt a bit heavier due to the added stability features."

weight

stability

"The Guide 17 may not provide enough medial stability for those accustomed to traditional stability shoes."

medial stability

traditional stability

guidance

"The Guide 17 has moved away from traditional stability methods, potentially disappointing loyal users of previous models."

traditional

geometry

stability

"The Ride 17 has less prominent side walls and sole flare, making it less stable compared to the Guide 17."

side walls

flare

stability

"The shoe lacks options for those needing more specific stability features."

stability

support

guidance

"The outsole lacks a plastic arch piece which might affect some users' stability needs."

arch support

outsole

"While stability is improved, it may not be sufficient for those needing more targeted support in the forefoot."

forefoot support

stability

"The heel counter lacks adequate structure for stability."

heel counter

support

design

"The new design may not meet the expectations of runners who prefer a more structured stability shoe."

everyday

structured

ambitious

"The removal of guide rails leads to instability."

instability

support

blisters

"The Guide 17 appears to lack significant prescriptive stability elements compared to its predecessors, which may negatively affect over-pronating runners."

stability

over-pronation

support

"The shoe lacks traditional medial post stability elements, which might not provide sufficient support for some runners."

medial post

stability

support

"The shoe's stability features could feel a bit excessive for some runners."

stability

support

grip

The main points to note are that the shoe has good grip on various surfaces, but there are significant concerns about its performance on wet terrain and overall grip quality, which are mentioned frequently.

traction (5)

outsole (2)

terrain adaptability (1)

width (1)

wet conditions (1)

performance (1)

wet_condition (1)

rubber (1)

Pros

"The shoe performs well on various surfaces, primarily designed for road use yet showing decent traction."

road use

solid traction

durable

"The Guide 17's traction is effective on various surfaces, including wet roads."

grip

wet conditions

versatile

"There are no reported issues with traction, even on wet surfaces, enhancing overall performance."

traction

wet surface

performance

"The shoe has a good grip, suitable for different surfaces without slipping."

traction

grip

surface adaptability

"The shoe adapts well over different terrain types, providing good grip and stability."

grip

stability

adaptability

"The shoe features a reliable grip thanks to its strategically placed outsole rubber, enhancing performance during runs."

grip

traction

performance

"The outsole has been redesigned to be wider, enhancing grip and stability for the runner."

outsole

grip

stability

Cons

"The grip performance of the shoe is subpar."

grip

traction

performance

"The shoe's grip is compromised due to the design changes made to reduce weight."

grip loss

rubber

slick surfaces

"There's concern over the outsole's performance in wet conditions."

outsole

wet conditions

rubber coverage

"The design of the outsole may not provide the best grip for all types of terrain."

traction

outsole

comfort

"Less rubber on the outsole may lead to less traction than previous models on certain surfaces."

outsole

traction

comparison

"Grip on wet surfaces is limited."

traction

safety

"More work could be done on enhancing grip for varied terrains."

grip

terrain

support

"The outsole may lack grip on wet terrain."

grip

wet terrain

durability

"The shoe's grip provided by the rubber outsole is not very impressive."

grip

outsole

smooth

"The Guide 17 lacks sufficient rubber coverage on the outsole, which affects its performance in slippery conditions."

rubber coverage

outsole

slippage

"The new outsole design might compromise grip compared to previous versions."

outsole design

grip

comparison

"The ASICS GT 2000 is noted to have an overall better outsole than the Guide 17, signaling a weakness in the latter's design."

outsole

comparison

design

"The shoe may not be the best fit for technical or rough terrain."

terrain

grip

performance

other

The main concerns about the shoe are its basic appearance and lack of airflow, which were mentioned frequently, indicating that many users feel these aspects could be improved.

style (5)

weight (3)

design (3)

sustainability (3)

lightweight (2)

aesthetics (2)

aesthetic (2)

upgrades (1)

Pros

"The recent upgrades improve fit and ride smoothness, marking a significant improvement from earlier iterations."

improved fit

better ride

significant change

"The shoe maintains a lightweight design, making it suitable for daily running."

lightweight

daily running

"The shoe is lightweight despite a bulky appearance, contributing to an enjoyable run."

lightweight

daily trainer

comfortable running

"The heavier weight does not compromise the feel while running; it remains comfortable despite being slightly heavier than previous models."

weight

comfort

"The shoe has a minimal design that appeals to users looking for a simpler aesthetic."

minimalist

design

colors

"The aesthetics of the shoe offer a range of colorways to suit different preferences."

styles

colorways

"The updated design of the Saucony Guide 17 offers a fresh look compared to the previous version."

style

appearance

"The design of the Saucony Guide 17 feels fresh and visually appealing."

aesthetics

colorway

visual appeal

"The design of the shoes is aesthetically pleasing, adding to their appeal."

aesthetics

"The shoe's lightweight design adds to the overall comfort during long-duration runs."

light

comfortable

"Overall, the shoe is lightweight, making it suitable for daily runs without feeling cumbersome."

lightweight

daily_runs

training

"The modern design of the shoe allows runners to feel good about their gear."

aesthetic

design

style

"The Guide 17 is versatile and can be used for a variety of activities beyond running."

versatile

multi-use

value

"It offers a solid option for recovery and easy runs, making it versatile for differing types of training."

training

versatile

"The shoe performs well for both running and walking, making it versatile for different activities."

running

walking

versatile

"This shoe is suitable for a variety of runners looking for comfort."

variety

runners

comfort

"Overall, it is presented as a versatile and good all-around shoe for support needs."

versatile

new release

"The Guide 17 is suitable for both everyday runners and ambitious athletes."

everyday use

ambitious athletes

all-rounder

"The shoe's construction includes recycled materials, promoting an eco-conscious design."

recycled materials

eco-friendly

"They incorporate eco-conscious materials, improving their sustainability."

sustainable

recycled materials

"The shoe is classified as vegan and made from fully recyclable materials, positively contributing to environmental concerns."

vegan

recyclable

"The price of the shoe is considered reasonable for its features and quality."

affordability

value

"The look of the shoe is appealing and well-received."

look

design

"The shoe is reasonably priced compared to other high-end options."

pricing

value

"The price point of $140 is seen as an excellent value for the quality offered."

price

value

affordability

"Overall, the shoe has received excellent ratings for its fit, comfort, and performance after multiple runs."

ratings

performance

fit

"The new design intendedly aims to appeal to a broader audience, similar to popular models like Hoka."

Hoka appeal

broad audience

market strategy

"The shoe is competitively priced for the features it offers at $140."

affordable

value

"This shoe provides a quieter run due to its rubberized outsole, which minimizes noise upon impact."

outsole

quiet run

"The update makes a significant evolutionary change while retaining the shoe's fan-favorite status."

update

fan-favorite

"Overall, the shoe is regarded as a fan favorite due to its evolutionary updates."

fan favorite

evolutionary

update

Cons

"Airflow through the shoe's upper does not meet expectations."

breathability

airflow

"The shoe has a basic appearance that may not attract all runners."

design

aesthetics

"Not enough variety in color options available."

color options

style

design

"The aesthetics may not appeal to all runners."

style

design

"Some reviewers found the style of the upper did not meet their personal preferences, which may affect overall satisfaction."

aesthetics

personal preference

"Some reviewers did not resonate with the style of the shoe."

aesthetics

personal preference

"Personal style preferences may not favor the appearance of the Guide 17."

aesthetics

personal preference

"The style of the Guide 17 did not appeal to all reviewers, indicating some aesthetic concerns."

style

design

"The color wasn't initially appealing but later grew on the reviewer."

color

appearance

preference

"The design of the shoe appears outdated and lacks a modern aesthetic."

style

appearance

overlays

"Potential for design fatigue, as the aesthetic feels too similar to previous models."

aesthetic

design fatigue

"The design of the shoe is criticized for being overly similar to Hoka models, indicating a lack of originality."

copying

originality

Hoka

"The shoe lacks some features that have been incorporated into other models, specifically the PWRRUN+."

PWRRUN+

comparisons

"The color combinations and overall look of the shoe are not appealing."

color

design

"The design style of the shoe did not appeal to all testers."

style

preference

"The shoe lacks versatility for different types of runs."

all-round

performance

"The shoe could be lighter, which may affect long-distance runs."

weight

comfort

"The Triumph 22 shoe is noted to be heavier than expected for a running shoe."

heavy

max cushion

running shoe

"The shoe has a heavier weight compared to previous models."

weight

heaviness

comparison

"The shoe's price point might not justify its lower tier feel for some runners."

price

value

"The weight difference between the two shoes may disadvantage runners looking for a lighter option."

weight

lightweight

"The review mentions that while both shoes are good, the Guide 17 does not stand out and feels less appealing overall."

appeal

competition

lesser

"The shoe's drop changing to 6mm may not suit all runners."

drop change

heel height

"The copying of design elements from other brands could lead to consumer confusion and a diminished brand identity for Saucony."

copying

branding

identity

"While the shoe is described as lightweight, some runners may find it still feels heavier due to the maximum cushioning."

lightweight

heavier

maximum cushioning

"The retail price remains the same despite the overhaul, which might not justify the investment for some."

cost

value

Model Updates

The Saucony Guide 17 introduces a new PWRRUN foam that is lighter and more responsive, aiming to provide a smoother and more comfortable ride compared to its predecessor. Additionally, it features an updated support frame for improved stability, catering specifically to runners who require mild to moderate pronation control.

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