Saucony guide 17

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Saucony guide 17

Price

240

Rating

High

Popularity

Very Popular

The Saucony Guide 17 offers moderate stability and cushioning, sitting between the more cushioned Triumph and the lighter, neutral Ride models in Saucony's lineup.

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Colorway: Navy/Orchid

Widths available: normal, wide

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Summary

The Saucony Guide 17 is a stability running shoe designed to provide support and comfort for runners who require assistance in correcting overpronation. It fits into Saucony's lineup by offering a structured and balanced ride, combining a moderate level of cushioning with support features that help maintain a natural gait cycle. Compared to other models in Saucony's range, the Guide series sits between the more neutral options, like the Saucony Ride, and the maximum stability models like the Saucony Hurricane or Omni. It's ideal for runners looking for a reliable daily trainer that contributes to both control and comfort on various runs.

Surface

road

Cushioning

MinLowMediumHighMax(31mm)

Category

ResponsiveBalancedComfort

Breathability

LowMediumHigh((formfit engineered mesh) upper)

Weight

269g

Heel-to-Toe Drop

8mm0mm14mm

Support

NeutralLightHigh

Width options

normal, wide

Grip

LowMediumHighMax

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Pros & Cons

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Most Mentioned Pros

Most Mentioned Cons

responsiveness (5)
comfort (4)
softness (3)
sockliner (3)
foam (3)
firmness (3)
bounce (2)
plushness (2)
Pros
"The Saucony Guide 17 features a highly cushioned and smooth ride, making it optimal for daily training."
cushioned
daily training
smooth ride
"The PWRRUN foam cushioning offers a plush and responsive ride."
PWRRUN foam
responsive cushioning
plush ride
"The shoe features a soft and responsive Power Run Plus material for increased energy return and cushioning."
cushioning
energy return
"The cushioning of the shoe has progressively improved over the years, providing a softer feel with each version."
cushioning
improvement
"The shoe's new design incorporates a lower drop and a more rockered ride, enhancing the running experience."
rockered
low drop
smooth consistent
"The increased stack height provides better cushioning, improving comfort."
cushioning
comfort
"The shoe offers excellent cushioning, making it a great choice for daily training."
cushioning
daily trainer
recovery run
"It feels smooth and soft during runs or walks, enhancing the overall experience."
smooth
soft
walk
"Runners appreciate the soft feel of the midsole that provides excellent underfoot protection."
protection
knees
softness
"The shoe has a balanced and accommodating cushioning feel."
cushioning
smooth
comfort
"The PWRRUN+ sockliner adds to the natural and comfortable feel of the shoe."
sockliner
comfort
natural feel
"The PWRRUN+ sockliner enhances immediate comfort for runners right out of the box."
PWRRUN+
comfort
step-in
"The PWRRUN+ sockliner adds immediate step-in comfort, enhancing the overall cushioned experience."
sockliner
initial comfort
impact protection
"The cushioning provides a soft bounce, contributing to comfort during runs."
bounce
cushioning
comfort
"The Guide 17 provides a bouncy feel, adding to the overall comfort during runs."
energy return
bounciness
"The Tempest offers a bouncier ride due to its Power Run PB super foam."
super foam
bouncy ride
cushioning
"The Ride 17 offers a more bouncy cushioning experience compared to previous models."
comfort
cushioning
resilience
"The cushioning is suitable for long runs without feeling too bouncy, which is preferred by the reviewer."
long run
cushion preference
"The high stack of PWRRUN midsole foam strikes a balance between impact protection and responsiveness, contributing to an energetic and responsive running experience."
PWRRUN foam
responsive
cushioning
"The use of PWRRUN+ foam in the sockliner provides immediate and comfortable step-in feel."
PWRRUN+
sockliner
step-in comfort
"The PWRRUN midsole offers a comfortable ride without being overly soft or heavy."
comfortable
balanced
midsole
"The Guide 17 manages to handle longer distances without sacrificing comfort."
comfort
long_run
support
"The shoe features a pillowy soft max cushioning that enhances comfort during runs."
max cushioning
impact absorption
comfort level
"The shoe's cushioning has been upgraded, providing additional comfort for long distances."
PWRRUN cushioning
added cushioning
forefoot comfort
"The midsole provides an ideal amount of cushioning for easy and recovery runs."
cushioning
recovery
comfortable
"The midsole material includes PowerRun and PowerRun Plus for enhanced comfort during runs."
comfort
PowerRun
PowerRun Plus
"The midsole has undergone a complete transformation, indicating enhanced performance characteristics."
midsole
cushioning
"The midsole is much improved, offering a lighter and squishier compound than previous versions."
power run
cushioning
lightweight
"The midsole has been enhanced for a softer feel and improved comfort during runs."
softness
power run
comfort
"The midsole material, Power Run, is durable and suitable for daily training."
midsole
Power Run
durability
"The midsole cushioning has been upgraded to Power Run Plus, offering a softer ride."
Power Run Plus
cushioned
dynamic
"The shoe uses PowerRun EVA in the midsole for a secure and lightweight ride."
PowerRun EVA
lightweight
secure ride
"The PWRRUN cushioning technology enhances both cushioning and stability in the shoe."
PWRRUN
cushioning
stability
"The Guide 17 offers good cushioning, beneficial for long and recovery runs."
cushioning
recovery runs
moderate runs
"The cushioning provided by PWRRUN is both springy and supportive without feeling excessively soft."
springy
cushioning
energy return
"The cushioning is soft yet provides stability, making the shoe suitable for various running styles."
cushioning
support
stability
"The high stack of PWRRUN midsole foam offers impact protection while remaining responsive and energetic."
PWRRUN foam
impact protection
energetic feel
"The overall design and stack height of the midsole provides consistent impact protection while maintaining responsiveness during runs."
impact protection
responsiveness
energy return
"The ASICS GT 2000 provides a responsive and comfortable midsole."
responsive
comfortable
midsole
"The high stack of PWRRUN midsole foam provides excellent protection from impact while being responsive and energetic."
PWRRUN foam
responsive
impact protection
"The shoe provides ample protection with its higher stack height."
stack height
cushioning
protection
"The use of PWRRUN+ in the sockliner creates immediate step-in comfort."
PWRRUN+
sockliner
step-in comfort
"The PWRRUN+ sockliner enhances immediate comfort upon stepping into the shoe."
PWRRUN+
sockliner
step-in comfort
"The PWRRUN midsole foam offers a high level of cushioning that balances impact protection with responsiveness."
PWRRUN
cushioning
"The full-length PowerRun foam enhances cushioning from heel to forefoot."
cushioning
comfort
"The shoe features a significantly increased amount of foam in the midsole, enhancing cushioning."
max cushion
midsole
comfort
"Testers reported that the Guide 17 improves midsole cushioning compared to its predecessor, the Guide 16."
cushioning
midsole
"The moderate cushioning strikes a good balance for comfort without feeling excessive."
cushioning
comfort
long runs
"The Saucony Guide 17 provides a comfortably cushioned experience with its unique PWRRUN foam."
cushioning
PWRRUN foam
comfort
protection
"The updated PowerRun midsole foam provides adequate cushioning, working well for daily runs and marathon training."
cushion
midsole
flexibility
"The cushioning is adequate for longer runs, providing good support without being overly bouncy."
cushioning
support
long runs
"The PowerRun foam is firmer than previous versions, providing better support without sacrificing comfort."
firmness
foundation
cushioning
"The increased stack height improves ride comfort and overall performance."
cushioning
comfort
"The cushioning in the GT2000 provides a bouncy and responsive ride."
responsive
cushioning
comfort
"Both models provide smooth transitions thanks to their rocker design."
transition
smooth
design
"The extra cushioning in the Guide 17 contributes to a plush running experience."
comfort
cushioning
support
"The shoe's cushioning feels more maximalist compared to prior versions, providing a plush running sensation."
cushioning
plush
maximalist
"The shoe features a Max cushioning design for enhanced comfort."
cushioning
comfort
design
"The cushioning in the heel is designed to be soft and comfortable."
cushioning
comfort
design
"The cushioning around the heel provides additional comfort upon step-in."
cushioning
comfort
"They have high cushioning, especially at the heel, enhancing the comfort of each step."
cushioning
heel comfort
"Ground contact EVA enhances comfort underfoot."
comfort
underfoot
material
"The guide 17 features a significant increase in stack height improving cushioning."
max cushion
stack height
cushioning
"The shoe maintains a balanced and neutral feel while providing cushioning."
balanced
neutral
cushioned
Cons
"The shoe lacks adequate springiness compared to other models."
springiness
cushioning
comfort
"The overall bounce during runs falls short compared to competitors."
bounce
cushioning
performance
"The shoe may not provide enough cushioning for runners expecting plush support."
cushion
support
long runs
"The shoe lacks sufficient energy return during runs."
energy return
cushioning
performance
"The shoe's cushioning may disconnect runners from the ground feel."
cushioning
ground connection
"Extra cushioning can result in a less responsive feel for some runners."
cushioning
responsiveness
"The foam does not provide enough responsiveness during runs."
foam
performance
"The cushioning, while comfortable, may not provide enough responsiveness for all runners."
cushion
responsiveness
"There is less energy return and responsiveness from the foam."
energy return
bounce
midsole
"There could be a lack of responsiveness during runs due to the soft cushioning."
responsiveness
cushioning
"The midsole is described as slightly stiff, potentially reducing comfort during runs."
stiffness
cushioning
comfort
"The perceived cushioning is described as minimum, contrasting with expectations."
cushioning
stack height
"The cushioning may not be supportive enough for some runners."
cushion
lightweight
"The cushion may diminish significantly once the sockliner wears out."
cushion loss
sockliner
durability
"The Guide 17's increased stack height may compromise ground feel for runners who prefer a more connected experience with the ground."
stack_height
ground connection
cushioning
"The cushioning may not be suitable for everyone due to its medium firmness."
cushioning
energy return
not too soft
"The midsole foam feels a bit firm after several runs."
firm
flexibility
"The shoe has a firmer midsole that doesn't feel as forgiving as previous versions."
cushion
firm
sluggish
"The overall cushioning might be perceived as less plush compared to other models."
cushioning
comparison
"The Triumph 22's lack of plush cushioning is marked as a downside."
cushioning
ride
"The cushioning system may feel insufficient for some runners."
cushioning
comfort
premium feel
"The shoe may not fit the preferences of runners who prefer more cushioning."
cushioning
heel-to-toe drop
"The cushioning is not as bouncy or springy as some may prefer, affecting the running experience."
cushioning
softness
"The reviewer dislikes the PowerRun midsole compared to the newer PowerRun Plus."
PowerRun
midsole
disappointment
"The shoe is described as not having a softer foam compared to other models."
foam
comfort
firmness
"The shoe does not cater well for runners who prefer a softer midsole."
midsole
softness
preferences
"The shoe’s cushioning may not be suitable for runners seeking a firmer ride."
cushioning
softness
comfort
"There is a suggestion for lowering the stack height, which could affect cushioning."
stack height
cushioning
"A firmer foam is suggested which may impact comfort."
foam
comfort
"The heel cushioning of both shoes might not cater to runners who prefer a very plush feel."
cushioning
heel padding
sensitivity
"The midsole cushioning of the Ride 17, while more resilient, may not provide the same feel for longer runs as the Guide 17."
resilience
feel
long runs
"Although designed for everyday runners, some may find that the shoe does not offer enough cushion for longer runs."
cushion
long runs
everyday use
"There's a reduction of cushioning in the new model compared to the previous version."
cushioning
stability
"The transition from the lightweight trainer feel to a max cushion may not appeal to all runners."
max cushion
training
weight

breathability (6)
fit (4)
padding (4)
ride (2)
lightweight (2)
material (2)
tongue (2)
weight (2)
Pros
"The PWRRUN+ sockliner adds to the overall comfort and support of the shoe."
PWRRUN+
comfort
support
"The shoe provides excellent comfort with a plush feel underfoot, making it suitable for longer runs."
comfort
long runs
daily training
"The engineered mesh upper offers a breathable fit while securely holding the midfoot, contributing to overall comfort."
mesh upper
breathable
secure fit
"The shoe's upper is made from breathable mesh material, providing comfort and ventilation."
breathable
lightweight
mesh
"The breathability of the upper contributes to comfort during longer runs."
breathable
comfort
long runs
"The breathable engineered mesh upper provides a comfortable fit while securing the midfoot effectively."
mesh upper
secure fit
comfort
"The shoe incorporates breathability and adequate padding in its design."
breathability
padding
zero slippage
"The two-layer mesh upper offers decent breathability for various weather conditions."
mesh
temperature
weather
"The Guide 17 features a woven mesh upper that is breathable and adaptive to the foot."
breathable
adaptive
upper
"The engineered mesh upper improves breathability and stability while being lightweight."
breathability
lightweight
comfort
"The new mesh upper allows for better breathability and comfort for the foot."
upper
breathability
comfort
"The upper mesh is lightweight with good ventilation, keeping the feet cool during warmer conditions."
upper mesh
ventilation
"The engineered mesh upper is lightweight and breathable, contributing to a comfortable experience."
lightweight
breathable
upper material
"The cushioned heel collar and tongue enhance comfort significantly."
heel collar
tongue
cushion
"A well-cushioned heel collar and tongue enhance the overall comfort of the shoe."
heel collar
tongue
comfort
"The shoe provides a comfortable, cushioned experience for easy runs, contributing to an overall smooth ride."
cushion
comfort
easy runs
"The shoe provides a comfortable fit with ample cushioning."
comfort
cushioning
"The updated design includes maximum cushioning for comfort during longer runs."
lightweight
comfort
maximum cushioning
"They are suitable for various weather conditions, providing comfort and dryness."
weather versatility
multi-condition use
comfort across temperatures
"Testers noted the shoe is comfortable for a variety of runs, making it versatile for different activities."
versatile
different surfaces
variety
"The shoe prevents slippage and hot spots during runs."
no slippage
no blisters
comfort
"The Saucony Guide 17 provides a comfortable and smooth ride, making it enjoyable for runners."
smooth
cushioned
versatile
"The shoe provides a plush and comfortable ride during runs."
plush
comfortable
daily runs
"The padded upper around the tongue and collar adds to the overall comfort of the fit, enhancing the wearer's experience."
padded
comfortable fit
collar
"The shoe offers a super comfortable fit, which feels secure and snug around the foot."
comfortable
padding
heel
"The shoes provide a super comfortable fit with excellent upper design."
padding
breathable
space
"The Guide 17 provides a relaxed fit, making it comfortable for daily training."
relaxed fit
daily training
comfort
"These shoes are described as super comfortable, making them ideal for long runs."
comfort
padding
long runs
"The padded collar and tongue enhance overall comfort, ensuring a better fit."
padded collar
fit
"The cushioned heel collar and tongue contribute to an overall increase in comfort."
heel collar
tongue cushioning
comfort
"The Guide 17 features a moderately padded heel, enhancing comfort during runs."
padded heel
everyday running
comfort
"The shoe feels familiar and comfortable right from the start, giving a sense of reliability."
instant comfort
reliability
"The Guide 17 feels lightweight and almost disappears on the foot during runs."
lightweight
natural feel
comfort
"The shoes are very lightweight, making them easy to wear for long durations."
lightweight
running experience
"The Saucony Guide 17 emphasizes comfort and protection for runners."
comfort
protection
"The updated heel collar and tongue design enhances the overall comfort of the shoe."
comfort
plush
heel collar
"The shoe features a softer feel compared to its predecessor, enhancing overall comfort during runs."
soft
comfortable
running
shoe
"The removal of plastic components enhances the overall comfort of the shoe."
plastic
material
"The upper design has received high praise for its quality."
upper
design
quality
"The tongue of the shoe is plush and wraps around the foot for added comfort."
plush
locking
comfort
"The shoe features a plush and cushioned tongue for added comfort."
plush
cushion
tongue
"The shoe provides a plush heel that enhances support during runs."
plush
support
"The sock-like feel ensures a snug fit around the heel."
comfort
fit
"The Guide 17 has a nice balance between flexibility and firmness."
stiffness
comfort
"The new flex groove layout in the forefoot creates a softer feel underfoot, which adds to the comfort."
comfort
flex
"The upper features an engineered mesh that is both soft and supportive."
softness
mesh
fit
"The engineered mesh upper provides comfort and a good fit, contributing to an enjoyable running experience."
mesh
fit
comfort
"The upper design is expected to include comfortable laces and a padded tongue."
comfortable laces
padded tongue
comfortable upper
"The upper material has been redesigned to be softer and more accommodating for a roomier fit."
soft material
roomy fit
"The shoe features a wider design and higher sidewalls for improved stability and comfort."
geometry
sidewalls
"The shoes provide an excellent level of comfort, making them ideal for running."
squishiness
comfort
satisfaction
"Users report minimal discomfort during use, making them suitable for daily running."
pain-free
comfort
"The shoe features high-quality insoles that are thick and comfortable, enhancing the overall comfort during runs."
insoles
comfort
bouncy
Cons
"The shoe lacks a lively bounce in its ride."
comfort
bounce
"The reduction in tongue padding may affect comfort for some runners."
comfort
tongue padding
"The padding on the tongue and heel collar is on the more minimal side."
padding
comfort
fit
"The heel counter's reduced padding may not appeal to everyone."
heel counter
padding
personal preference
"The upper of the Endorphin Pro 4 has minimal padding which may affect comfort."
minimal padding
lightweight
comfort
"There was a hot spot on the foot during runs, which affected comfort."
hot spot
discomfort
"The upper may not provide sufficient breathability compared to other models."
breathability
fit
"The engineered mesh upper, while fitting well, might not provide adequate breathability for long runs."
mesh
upper
breathability
"Breathability is average and may not be suitable for extreme conditions."
breathability
temperature management
"The updated upper may detract from breathability compared to prior models."
upper design
comfort
breathability
"The upper of the Triumph 22 is not as breathable compared to other models."
breathability
upper
mesh
"The shoe may not provide the best breathability despite having a new mesh upper."
breathability
upper material
"The increase in cushioning may not appeal to those preferring a firmer feel."
cushioned
comfort
"The weight of the shoe can make it feel heavy during longer runs."
cushion
heavy
long run
"The upper may be padded, leading to concerns about the shoe's overall weight."
weight
padding
comfort
"Some may find the shoe's response and firmness less suitable depending on individual preferences."
stability
personal preference
"The Guide 17 has a firmer midsole, which some may find less comfortable."
firm
midsole
comfort
"Some reviewers found the upper to lack a premium feel compared to other models."
upper
comfort
premium feel
"The shoe's overall feel was noted as 'base-level' by some testers, which may not appeal to those seeking luxury."
comfort
standard feel
"The upper material does not provide a premium feel despite being soft."
upper
luxury
comfort
"The softer upper material may not suit those desiring a different texture or support."
softness
texture
"Some made comparisons to higher end Saucony models which might have overshadowed expectations."
comparison
expectations
luxury
"The review suggests that the Guide 17 does not provide the same level of comfort as the GT 2000, potentially affecting long runs."
comfort
comparison
long runs
"The shoe feels somewhat firm and blocky at first."
firm
blocky
initial discomfort
"The shoe lacks sufficient protection for longer distances."
long distances
protection
"The shoe takes time to break in before becoming comfortable."
break-in
mechanics
"The comfort may initially seem inadequate due to the heel bevel design."
heel bevel
uncomfortable
"The upper is considered standard and lacks innovation."
upper
innovation
"The Tempest has a stiffer heel which may not be comfortable for all runners."
stiffness
padding
comfort
"Some previous versions were more comfortable than the Guide 17."
comfort
comparison
"The flexibility of the Guide 17 may not suit those who like a more rigid shoe."
flexibility
stiffness
comfort
"The upper of the Guide 17 is stiffer than the Ride 17, possibly affecting overall comfort for certain runners."
stiffness
padding
comfort
"While the shoe focuses on comfort, it may not suit runners who prefer a firmer feel underfoot."
soft
cushioning
comfort
"The shoe's updated design may not appeal to everyone who preferred the previous stability features."
stability
design
comparison
"The Guide 17 does not deliver a premium feel compared to other shoes."
premium
comfort

outsole (9)
weight (5)
material (2)
longevity (2)
wear resistance (1)
flexibility (1)
breathability (1)
structural (1)
Pros
"Good durability after extensive mileage, showing little wear and tear."
durability
long-lasting
mileage
"Despite its wider design and increased stack height, the Guide 17 maintains a similar lightweight feel compared to its predecessor, the Guide 16."
lightweight
wider design
stack height
"The Guide 17 is lighter than many of its stability competitors, making it a favorable choice."
lightweight
stability
"Testers noted that the Guide 17 remains lightweight compared to other stability shoes, making it a favorable option."
lightweight
stability
durability
"The shoe maintains the same weight as the previous model, despite being chunkier, showing good engineering."
weight
engineering
"The shoe has a significantly lighter build compared to its predecessors, making it more enjoyable to run in."
lightweight
improved performance
"The shoe maintains flexibility in the forefoot for easier movement during runs."
flexibility
forefoot
"The lightweight breathable mesh contributes to the shoe's overall comfort and durability."
mesh
breathable
"The shoe's durability is improved with added rubber on the outsole for increased longevity."
outsole
durability
long-lasting
"The shoe's durability is highlighted, making it a reliable option for marathon training and long-distance running."
durability
marathon training
long distance
"Constructed with durable materials, the Guide 17 is built to last through extensive training."
durability
midsole
training
"The outsole has shown minimal wear after 100 miles, indicating good durability for long-term use."
durability
outsole
wear resistance
"The outsole incorporates rubber in high abrasion areas for durability."
durability
design
material
"The ASICS GT 2000 has an improved outsole compared to previous models."
outsole
improved
durable
"The reliable outsole maintains durability after initial runs, despite the reduced rubber coverage."
durability
outsole
reliability
"The outsole rubber is noted for its durability and high coverage."
durability
outsole
"Both shoes have shown excellent durability even after extensive use."
durability
long-lasting
mileage
"The shoe has a solid level of durability thanks to its sturdy construction."
durability
sturdy
"The shoe has a good amount of rubber on the bottom for durability without excessive weight."
rubber
durability
balanced
"The shoe uses durable rubber for enhanced traction and longevity."
durability
traction
high quality
"Durability has been excellent with both shoes after extensive use."
excellent durability
long-lasting
"The shoe is durable, maintaining its structure well even after significant mileage, indicating good longevity."
durable
longevity
"The shoe is designed to handle a high mileage of up to 400 miles or more."
durability
high mileage
outsole
"The strategically placed rubber on the outsole reduces weight while maintaining necessary durability in high-impact areas."
outsole
durability
lightweight
Cons
"The exposed outsole may detract from durability."
durability
outsole
"The outsole durability on trails was found lacking by testers, limiting its versatility."
outsole
trail
"The outsole's minimal rubber coverage raises durability concerns."
rubber
exposed foam
"Some testers reported early signs of wear on the outsole, indicating potential durability issues."
wear
durability
"The outsole durability is inadequate for trail running, limiting the shoe's versatility on different terrains."
trail
versatility
"The shoe's performance on trails can be lacking due to outsole durability issues."
trail
durability
performance
"The outsole performance on trails may not be adequate for various terrains."
trail
performance
"The Guide 17's outsole did not perform well on uneven terrain."
outdoor
trail
performance
"The outsole appears to be less durable due to its exposed rubber design."
durability
design
"The outsole's durability cannot be assessed within a short mileage period."
outsole
durability
assessment
"The reviewer is uncertain about the shoe's longevity due to early wear."
longevity
concern
wear
"The shoe may not be as breathable as previous models, leading to discomfort."
breathability
comfort
"The outsole has lots of exposed foam, which could reduce durability."
exposed foam
outsole
"Some runners might find the weight to be slightly heavier than desired."
weight
heaviness
running performance
"The shoe may not be the lightest available despite being chunkier."
weight
chunkiness
"The overall weight of the shoe is still relatively heavy for some runners."
heaviness
comparison
running
"The shoe may feel heavier due to the increased stack height and additional materials."
heaviness
stack height
material
"The new shoe is heavier than its predecessor, which may impact performance."
weight
performance
"Potential concerns regarding durability over time given the lightweight nature."
lightweight
minimal layers
"The lack of rubber coverage on the outsole is noted as a downside for durability."
outsole
rubber coverage
durability
"The shoe has less blown rubber compared to previous models, which may affect durability."
blown rubber
durability
previous models
"The shoe has reduced rubber coverage on the outsole compared to previous versions, raising concerns about durability."
outsole
coverage
durability
"The reviewer needs more time to assess the durability and wear of the outsole after initial runs."
durability
outsole
mileage
"The foam shows significant wear after just 50 miles of use."
wear
foam
mileage

responsiveness (7)
weight (5)
rocker (5)
speed (5)
smoothness (4)
ride (3)
versatility (2)
forward motion (2)
Pros
"The Guide 17 enables an extremely smooth transition thanks to its innovative design and flexible forefoot."
smooth
daily runs
flexible
"The Guide 17 allows for a smooth transition through foot strikes due to its lowered drop and rocker profile."
smooth transition
rocker profile
lower drop
"The shoe provides a smooth transition and glide during runs, enhancing performance."
smooth
glide
performance
"The updated design includes a new rocket geometry in the midsole, meant to provide better transitioning from heel to toe."
rocket geometry
midsole
"The grooves in the outsole enhance heel-to-toe transition for a smoother running experience."
smooth transition
outsole
running performance
"This shoe accommodates different types of runs, making it versatile for various paces and distances."
daily runs
uptempo work
consistent pace
"Runners of all experience levels find the Guide 17 versatile and suitable for different types of runs."
versatile
everyday trainer
easy runs
speedwork
"The increased stack makes the shoe more versatile for longer runs."
versatility
long_runs
"The Tempest shoe is lightweight, offering versatility for both training and racing."
lightweight
racing
training
versatility
"Lightweight construction adds to the overall performance, making it versatile across different distances."
versatile
lightweight
performance
"The shoe maintains a light weight, which is a positive for longer runs."
lightweight
long-distance
comfortable
"The lightweight design enhances agility without compromising stability."
lightweight
agility
stability
"The shoe feels lighter and more energetic than its predecessor, improving the running experience."
lightweight
energetic
"The incorporated rocker design promotes forward motion, making running feel easier and more efficient."
rocker design
efficiency
gait cycle
"The incorporated rocker design promotes natural forward motion during the gait cycle."
rocker design
gait cycle
"The Guide 17 offers a lightweight and nimble feel during runs."
nimble
lighter
performance
"The shoe features excellent bounce and responsiveness, enhancing the running experience."
responsive
fun
performance
"The shoe's Center Path Technology effectively guides the runner's foot forward."
center path technology
performance improvement
foot guidance
"The running experience feels smooth thanks to the rocker-shaped geometry of the midsole."
rocker-shaped geometry
energy efficiency
smooth transitions
"The Guide 17 features a smooth ride that enhances the running experience."
cushioned
smooth
running experience
"The shoe's rocker design contributes to a smooth running experience."
performance
rocker
"The shoe facilitates a smooth running experience, contributing to a better overall performance."
smooth run
performance
"The shoe allows for a smooth and efficient forward motion due to its rocker effect during strides."
rocker
smooth
efficient
"The incorporation of rocker-shaped geometry supports smoother forward motion."
rocker geometry
forward motion
energy conservation
"The combination of control and comfort makes them reliable for various training runs."
control
training
performance
"The shoe performs well across varied paces, providing good responsiveness."
varied paces
good responsiveness
stability
"The 6mm heel-to-toe drop provides a smooth transition and natural feel during runs."
heel drop
smooth transition
"The combination of cushioning and design makes the shoe feel natural and supportive throughout the run."
natural gait
supportive
comfortable
"The design of the shoe includes a rocker shape that facilitates forward motion with less energy required."
rocker
forward motion
"The incorporated rocker in the shoe design promotes a more effortless running experience and encourages forward motion."
rocker
forward motion
effortless running
"The new rocker design helps transition runners smoothly from heel to toe, which enhances performance."
smooth transition
performance
rocker design
"The rocker design in the midsole significantly improves the shoe's performance during runs."
performance
rocker design
"The updated geometry includes a significant rocker design that improves the running experience."
geometry
rocker
running_experience
"The rockered bottom design aids in smooth transitions while running or walking."
rockered bottom
smooth transitions
"The shoe performs well in slippery weather, providing confidence in various conditions."
slip resistant
confidence
"Both shoes perform well for daily training and long runs."
daily training
stability
long runs
"The initial running experience in the shoe was enjoyable and promising."
running experience
performance
"Both shoes serve well as daily trainers."
daily trainers
versatile
"A lower drop of 6 mm offers a more natural running experience."
natural
performance
"The shoe's responsive nature enhances the running experience, making it enjoyable."
responsive
performance
good option
"The shoe is designed to facilitate a smoother stride with a rocker-shaped sole."
rocker sole
stride
transition
"The shoe maintains class-leading power run technology, contributing to overall performance."
performance
power run
"The shoe maintains its class-leading power run technology, enhancing performance."
power run
performance
technology
Cons
"The initial heel transition feels somewhat clunky due to the design of the shoe."
heel transition
clunky feel
"Less responsive feel during uptempo runs compared to other shoes."
uptempo
responsiveness
"The shoe lacks responsiveness, making it less suitable for speed work."
speed
training
performance
"The shoe lacks responsiveness due to the foam material."
foam
energy return
PWRRUN+
"The shoe's soft midsole, while comfortable, may not provide enough responsiveness for those needing firmer support."
midsole
PWRRUN
responsiveness
"The shoe may not provide sufficient responsiveness for those looking for a bouncier feel."
responsiveness
bounciness
"The new flex groove layout, while adding cushioning, could affect ground feel and responsiveness."
flex grooves
cushioning
ground feel
"The shoe doesn't feel as responsive as the previous model, potentially affecting performance."
responsiveness
performance
"The Guide 17 is less agile compared to its predecessors."
performance
agility
"The shoe is more suited for slower pace runs rather than speed workouts."
speedwork
pace
performance
"The shoe is not suitable for high-speed runs or competitive racing."
performance
speed
training
"The shoe may not provide speed advantages during races."
training
race performance
"The shoe does not perform well for speed in short distance runs."
short distances
performance
"The shoe may not offer significant speed advantages for competitive runners."
competition
training
"The shoe may not be suitable for racing or personal best attempts."
racing
PR
"The midsole delivers only a subtle energy return, which is not ideal for those looking for a more responsive feel."
energy return
performance
"The shoe's weight is average, lacking any standout quality for faster performances."
weight
performance
"The shoe weighs more than its predecessor, which could affect performance."
weight
performance
"The shoe is heavy, which may not be ideal for faster runs."
heavy
speed
"The shoe may not be suitable for serious tempo runs due to its weight."
tempo runs
easy day
"The shoe feels heavier than expected for a daily trainer."
weight
daily trainer
"The shoe may not suit runners looking for a firmer and more directed feel during their runs due to its softer cushioning."
cushioning
plush
feel
"The shoe lacks specific feedback on performance over long distances."
mileage
performance feedback
"The switch to Center Path Technology may not appeal to those who preferred the previous model's features."
center path
hollow-tech
comparison
"The shoe feels dense and sluggish initially."
sluggish
dense
"The shoe is not versatile for faster pacing."
speed
fast pacing
versatility
"The shoe feels like a dedicated stability shoe, lacking versatility."
performance
versatile
stability
"The shoe's performance in slippery conditions is noted to be acceptable but not specified."
slippery conditions
acceptability
"The Guide 17 is more suitable for easy-paced running and may not perform well in speed workouts."
performance
easy pace
"The ride does not feel particularly exciting or enjoyable compared to rivals."
performance
ride
versatility
"The Guide 17 has a rockered ride that might not offer the bounce some runners prefer."
rockered
bounce
performance
"Even though the Guide 17 uses Power Run mids, it does not offer much excitement in terms of ride."
boring
performance
mids
"The Ride 17 has been characterized as more of a cruiser versus a serious performance shoe, which may limit its appeal for speed-focused runners."
cruiser
performance
uptempo
"The shoe is designed primarily for daily miles and may not perform optimally for speed workouts."
daily miles
speed
training
"The cushioning in the heel area might be too soft for some runners, possibly affecting performance."
soft
comfort
performance
"The shoe does not provide a mind-blowing experience, which some runners might expect from a high-performance shoe."
experience
performance
surprise
"There are concerns that increasing the stack height may impact the shoe's performance and its relationship with other models in the lineup."
stack height
performance
comparison
"Changes in design elements such as cutouts could lead to performance issues as they attempt innovations seen in competitor shoes."
cutouts
design
performance
"The performance of the Endorphin Pro 4 may feel stiffer than desired."
stiffness
performance
"The shoe lacks significant bounce back, which may hinder performance during runs."
bounce
performance
long runs

width (7)
lockdown (5)
customization (3)
secure (3)
true to size (2)
size (2)
comfort (2)
upper (2)
Pros
"The fit of the shoe is true to size, providing a secure yet comfortable experience for various foot shapes."
secure fit
width
comfort
"The shoe fits true to size, accommodating different foot shapes well and offering a secure lockdown."
true to size
secure fit
accommodating
"The upper is designed to provide good stretch and security, enhancing overall comfort."
flexible
secure
comfort
"The spacious upper design accommodates wider feet, enhancing comfort during runs."
spacious
comfort
"The mid-range toe box width contributes to its comfort and fit."
toe box
fit
comfort
"The shoe offers a wide fit option, which is beneficial for runners needing extra space."
wide fit
spacious
"The design of the shoes provides a spacious toe box, enhancing comfort for wider feet."
toe box
spacious
comfort for wider feet
"The Guide 17 fits exceptionally well, providing a nice balance of security and space for wider feet."
fit
comfort
space
"The shoe's fit has been improved with a slightly wider design, which enhances comfort during runs."
fit
wide
secure
"The shoe features a wider toe box for enhanced comfort and fit."
toe box
fit
comfort
"The shoe molds well to the foot, providing customized support especially for runners with specific arch needs."
fit
arch support
adaptability
"The updated design features extra eyelets that allow for customized lacing techniques for an improved fit."
lacing
custom fit
marathon loop
"The gusseted tongue and additional eyelets enhance the fit and customization of lacing."
gusseted tongue
eyelets
custom lacing
"The shoe is true to size, ensuring a proper fit for many runners."
true to size
fit
comfort
"The shoe fits true to size, making it easy for runners to select their correct size."
true to size
fit
"The shoe fits true to size, which is a significant advantage."
fit
true_size
"The fit of the shoe is excellent, allowing for comfort during easy runs as well as stability throughout the gait cycle."
true to size
fit
"Both shoes have a good fit and are true to size."
true to size
good fit
"The fit of the shoes is true to size, which enhances comfort and usability."
true to size
fit
"The shoe fits true to size and provides a secure and locked-down fit, which is essential for stability."
true to size
lockdown
"The shoe's upper is designed to be breathable and hold its shape well, improving comfort during runs."
upper
breathable
shape
"The upper of the Guide 17 boasts breathability and a roomy toe box for a comfortable fit."
breathable
spacious
secure
"The updated mesh upper provides breathability while securing the midfoot."
mesh upper
breathability
midfoot security
"The Guide 17 features a breathable upper that accommodates varying foot shapes, enhancing fit and comfort."
breathable
fit
comfort
stretch
"The mesh upper provides breathability and a soft, supportive fit."
breathability
support
"The engineered mesh upper provides excellent breathability."
breathable
mesh
upper
"The shoe does not require a break-in period, ensuring instant comfort upon wearing."
true to size
no break-in
comfortable fit
"The roomy toe box provides comfort and prevents cramping during runs."
roomy
comfort
fit
"The gusseted tongue and extra eyelets enhance the adjustable fit of the shoe."
adjustable
comfort
fit
"Runners experience a secure and locked-down fit with the shoe's upper."
fit
snug
wiggle room
"The uppers of both shoes provide excellent lockdown with no slippage."
comfort
fit
stability
"Added lockdown features in the midfoot enhance security during runs."
security
support
design
"The shoe offers a secure fit with good lockdown, enhancing comfort during runs."
fit
comfort
no hot spots
"The shoe provides an improved upper that effectively locks the foot in place."
upper
foot lock
fit
"The gusseted tongue helps the shoe maintain its position during runs."
gusseted tongue
lacing techniques
comfort
"The shoe's accommodating fit minimizes slippage, blisters, and hot spots during runs."
accommodating
secure
no blisters
"FORMFIT technology offers a snug and personalized fit, adapting to the shape of the foot."
FORMFIT
personalized fit
comfort
"The breathable mesh upper keeps feet cool and dry while providing ample room."
breathable
roomy
cooling
"The engineered mesh upper provides good fit and padding, enhancing overall comfort."
mesh construction
padding
good fit
"The Guide 17 fits true to size, providing a reliable fit for various foot shapes."
true to size
fit
variation
"The padded heel collar and snug midfoot contribute to a locked-down feel."
locked-down
padded heel collar
wider forefoot
"The engineered mesh upper provides breathability while securing the midfoot for a comfortable fit."
breathability
fit
mesh
"The shoe maintains a comfortable and secure fit, accommodating different foot shapes."
fit
comfort
"The fit of the Tempest allows for a secure lockdown, enhancing performance."
secure fit
lockdown
performance
"Despite the changes, the shoe maintains a good lockdown fit at the heel for secure wear."
lockdown fit
heel fit
"The shoe's upper offers a snug, locked-down fit while maintaining breathability and zero slippage."
fit
locked-down
breathability
"The upper of the shoe provides a snug and accommodating fit."
fit
breathability
padding
"The improved upper design provides more room, contributing to a better fit and comfort."
fit
upper
comfortable
"The heel counter provides a more roomy fit than the previous model, enhancing comfort."
heel
roominess
"Going down half a size allows for a better fit without discomfort during runs."
fit
half size down
"The shoe features a roomier toe box compared to older models."
fit
roominess
"The Guide 17 offers a better fit for runners needing extra toe box space."
fit
space
comfort
"Both shoes have a lightweight design, making them great for faster paces."
lightweight
performance
"The traditional lacing system allows for customizable support."
support
fit
adjustability
"The upper of the shoe has been completely redesigned, contributing to a fresher fit and feel."
upper
design
"The overlays on the upper add structure for additional support while maintaining comfort."
support
cushioning
"The shoe incorporates Centerpath technology for improved fit."
fit
support
"The shoe fits a wide range of foot shapes comfortably without issues."
fit
heel lock
wide toe box
"The updated design includes a gusset for improved lockdown around the midfoot."
gusset
lockdown
midfoot
"The shoes show no heel slippage, providing a secure fit during runs."
heel slip
fit
stability
"The fit of the shoe has been improved, offering a roomier feel which enhances comfort for various foot shapes."
fit
comfort
toe box
"The improved upper design locks the foot down effectively during runs."
fit
upper
Cons
"Secure midfoot fit may feel slightly snug for some runners."
snug fit
midfoot security
"The rigid heel counter may be uncomfortable for runners sensitive to stiff materials."
stiff counter
sensitivity
"The shoe runs a bit large, which can affect fit and comfort."
sizing
fit
comfort
"The fitting of the Triumph 22 is off, being too large in the toe box."
big fit
toe box
length
"The fit may not be snug around the midfoot."
fit
snugness
"The upper lacks a premium feel compared to higher-end models."
upholstery
perceived quality
"The upper lacks a premium feel, which may not meet expectations for some users."
upper
material
feel
"The fit may not be ideal for all foot shapes, leading to discomfort."
fit
personalized
"The Guide 17 may feel less versatile than its predecessor for daily training."
versatile
daily trainer
"While the shoes are comfortable, they may not hug the foot tightly, which might not suit everyone."
fit
comfort
"The tongue is short and can cause discomfort during runs."
tongue length
discomfort
laces
"There is a lack of diverse fit options for people with different foot shapes."
fit options
high arches
foot shape
"Some users may experience issues with fit due to the upper design."
upper design
spacious
personalized fit
"The toe box may feel too wide for certain runners."
toe box
fit
"Some runners might find the Guide 17's snug fit to be less accommodating than they prefer."
fit
forefoot width
midfoot width
"The wide platform may not be ideal for runners with narrower feet."
wide
fit
narrow
comfort
"The shoe's fit could be less accommodating for runners with wider feet."
fit
wider feet
"The engineered mesh may cause fit issues for runners with wider feet due to its tighter design."
engineered mesh
fit issues
tight
"The narrower fit may not be suitable for runners with wider feet."
wide feet
fit preference
"The heel-to-toe drop is lower compared to previous versions which may not suit all runners."
drop
heel-to-toe
fit preference
"The change to a lower drop might not suit all runners."
heel drop
maximalist
"The upper design of the shoe irritates the heel collar."
heel collar
irritation
"There may be too much emphasis on guiding the foot, which could feel restrictive for some runners."
medial pressure
restrictive
"The overall fit is satisfactory but not exceptionally praised against competitive shoes."
fit
competition
disappointment
"The snug fit of the Tempest might be uncomfortable for those who prefer a looser fit."
fit
snug
"The shoe may not provide a snug fit for those who prefer it."
snug fit
personal preference
"The shoe felt a bit uncomfortable after prolonged use due to improper lacing."
fit
uncomfortable
lacing
"The shoe’s lacing system is described as just standard and may not cater to specific needs for all runners."
standard
adjustability
design
"Some runners with specific foot conditions might find the lower toe box of the Ride 17 uncomfortable."
toe box
uncomfortable
foot conditions
"The fit might not suit all runners due to changes in the shoe's geometry."
fit
geometry
runners
"The shoe's upper material is not highly breathable."
material
cooling
comfort
"The different design philosophy may require another adjustment period for runners accustomed to earlier models."
fit
adjustment
risk
"The Pro 4's fit might not be ideal for everyone due to its snug design."
snug fit
design
comfort
"The shoe feels notably clunky during runs due to its design."
fit
clunky
"The laces in the new model lack the quality of the previous version, which could affect fit."
laces
fit
"The shoe features very high arches, which may not be suitable for everyone."
fit
arch support
universal suitability

support (8)
technology (7)
design (5)
level (4)
platform (3)
guidance (3)
harshness (3)
ride (2)
Pros
"It provides a stable platform without intrusive medial pressure, ideal for runners needing mild guidance."
stable platform
non-intrusive
sidewalls
"The redesigned features allow for a wider base and a smooth heel-to-toe transition, enhancing stability during runs."
stable
heel-to-toe
smooth transitions
"The Saucony Guide 17 has enhanced stability features that promote a secure run."
stability
secure
support
"The Guide 17 offers smooth transitions thanks to its new rocker design."
rocker
transitions
stability
"The shoe features advanced support technology that enhances stability during runs."
support technology
stability
cushioning
"It offers excellent stability due to its broader base and advanced technology."
stability
center path technology
supportive base
"The Saucony Guide 17 offers dependable stability and protection during runs."
stability
protection
daily use
"The Saucony Guide 17 provides excellent stability for overpronators."
overpronation
stability frame
momentum
"CenterPath Technology provides targeted support to prevent overpronation."
CenterPath Technology
overpronation
support
"The shoe delivers effective anti-pronation support suitable for midfoot and forefoot strikers."
anti-pronation
midfoot support
"The shoe offers anti-pronation support that accommodates different foot strike patterns like midfoot and forefoot."
anti-pronation
midfoot support
forefoot support
"The Saucony Guide 17 employs Center Path Technology to enhance stability without restricting movement."
Center Path Technology
stability
foot guidance
"The shoe provides effective structural support specifically for overpronators."
overpronation
firm midsole
durability
"The Saucony Guide 17 provides excellent stability for overpronators, ensuring a more balanced stride."
stability
overpronation
momentum
"The Saucony Guide 17 provides exceptional stability for overpronators."
overpronation
stability
frame
"The shoe's design incorporates a supportive platform while avoiding overly severe stability features, allowing a more natural feel."
stability
natural feel
support
"The updated design enhances stability significantly."
stability
support
design
"The stability features in the shoe efficiently support the foot without feeling cumbersome."
stability
supportive
midsole
"The support provided by the shoes is commendable, ensuring stability during runs."
support
stability
running
"The shoe provides medial support to help with impact distribution and protect the foot and ankle during runs."
medial support
impact distribution
"The introduction of Center PATH technology allows for guided foot movement without strong medial posting."
Center PATH
stability
medial support
"The shoes provide good support for stability during long runs."
supportive
long runs
"Its broad midsole design contributes to the stability and smooth transition from landing to toe-off."
midsole
toe-off
landing stability
"The wider platform provides enhanced stability without additional support pieces."
stability
wider base
over pronation
"The Saucony Guide 17 has a wide and supportive platform for stability during runs."
stability
support
wide
"The broader platform design provides better support and comfort during runs."
broader platform
support
comfort
"The Saucony Guide 17 provides effective guidance without being overly corrective, thanks to its innovative technology."
Center Path Technology
minimal correction
stability
"The Saucony Guide 17 features Center Path Technology, which effectively guides runners while reducing excessive movement."
Center Path Technology
stability
support
"The use of Center Path technology provides a softer guiding stability for a more comfortable run."
stability
Center Path
dynamic
"The shoe provides a modern approach to stability without being intrusive."
non-intrusive
accommodating
support
"The Center Path Technology contributes to a feeling of stability and comfort."
technology
comfort
stability
"The shoe features a stable ride which aids in comfortable running experiences."
stable
comfortable
"The Guide 17 offers a stable and smooth ride."
smooth ride
stability
comfort
"The Center Path Technology makes the shoe feel smoother and more accommodating."
Center Path Technology
smooth ride
accommodating
"The Guide 17 is versatile and suits a variety of foot shapes."
versatility
gait cycle
adaptability
"The new Center Path technology significantly enhances stability for overpronators."
stability
pronation
support
"The Guide 17 features innovative CenterPath Technology for enhanced stability."
CenterPath Technology
stability
wider platform
"The Center Path Technology provides effective guidance to runners."
Center Path Technology
guidance
"The innovative Center Path Technology offers improved stability and support without being obtrusive."
stability
guidance
support
"The Center Path Technology allows for a smoother and more holistic support experience."
Center Path Technology
gait cycle
smooth
"The shoe's stability is enhanced by its wide design, allowing for a supportive experience without feeling cumbersome."
wide
supportive
stability
"A redesign of the support structure enhances the shoe's overall performance without the traditional medial post."
support structure
rockered ride
"The Guide 17 offers a modern stability design that's lighter and more comfortable than past models."
stability
comfort
lightweight
"The shoe features a revolutionary update with a geometry-focused stability design."
stability
innovation
geometry
"The shoe features a revolutionary update in its design for better stability."
geometry
stability
update
"The use of subtle stability features in the Guide 17 enhances its performance for overpronators and neutral runners alike."
subtle
support
overpronation
"The shoe features a wider base and higher sidewalls that enhance stability during runs."
base width
sidewalls
"The shoe adapts well to the user's unique stride and running style."
support
running style
reliable
"The shoe's new geometry enhances stability and comfort without the need for a medial post."
broader base
midsole geometry
stability
"The flared geometry adds stability with a secure feel during running."
wider platform
secure feel
flared design
"The redesigned support structure enhances stability and support without adding weight or bulk."
support structure
stability
"The overall design allows it to serve as an option for both stable and neutral runners due to its holistic support."
holistic support
neutral runners
versatile
"The shoe still offers stability features, catering to a variety of runners' needs."
stability
neutral
"The Saucony Guide 17 features innovative stability technology that accommodates various foot shapes."
Center Path Technology
support
overpronation
"The Center Path Technology enhances the smoothness of the ride, compared to previous versions."
smoother ride
accommodating
arch profiles
"This shoe is ideal for runners needing mild to moderate stability."
stability
daily training
"The Center Path Technology enhances the shoe's performance throughout the entire gait cycle, not just during landings."
Center Path Technology
gait cycle
guidance
"The inherent stability from the width of the shoe is excellent."
stability
design
"The support features work well without being intrusive for neutral runners."
stability
neutral support
"The Ride 17 has some stability features improving its neutral stance."
neutral
support
base
"The removal of the post in the shoe design allows for a lighter and more comfortable experience."
lightweight
removal
stability
"The Sakon Guide 17 offers great forward motion and support."
centered ride
lateral support
medial support
"The Guide 17 provides excellent stability through built-up sidewalls."
pronation
support
control
"Increased sidewall heights contribute to a sense of security."
security
cushion
design
"The wide base in the Guide 17 enhances its stability significantly."
stability
forefoot
support
"The shoe provides excellent stability during runs, accommodating both medial and lateral movements."
stability
medial
lateral
"The shoe features a wider base which enhances its stability and support."
wider_base
stability
"The shoe has a wide platform that adds to the feeling of security and comfort."
stability
security
platform
"The shoe is a significant revamp from previous models and feels improved."
redesign
stability
"The ASICS GT 2000 features a well-designed 3D guidance system for stability."
guidance system
stability
design
"The shoe features a higher stack and wider base, contributing to increased stability."
wide base
support
"The updated drop of 6 mm is beneficial for reducing stress on the IT band."
heel-toe drop
IT band
stability
"The new stability features maintain effectiveness without a medial post."
stability
flexibility
no medial post
"The new design eliminates the stiff guide rails, improving comfort."
supportive
comfort
design
"The broader base enhances stability during runs."
stability
fit
"The shoe provides a wide base for a more stable ride that spreads the forces better."
wide base
force distribution
stability
"The shoe has a broad base which contributes to stability during movement."
broad base
stability
"The Guide 17 maintains its identity as a stability shoe aimed at overpronators."
overpronation
stability
daily trainer
"The shoe is expected to provide inherent stability through its wider base design."
wider base
inherent stability
stable platform
"The Guide 17 features a modern approach to stability without the traditional medial post."
stability
modern design
cushioning
"The shoe provides excellent stability due to its wider midsole and custom designed side walls."
stability
midsole
lateral support
"The shoe provides full ground contact, enhancing stability while running."
ground contact
stability
"The full ground contact outer sole enhances stability during runs."
ground contact
outer sole
"The shoes are ideal for runners with a tendency to over-pronate, as they support inward gait."
over-pronation
gait support
Cons
"The heel bevel may feel a bit clunky until the shoe breaks in."
heel bevel
clunky sensation
"The shoe lacks strong medial arch support due to the absence of the previous medial post."
medial support
arch support
"Some runners may find the stability offered by the Guide 17 insufficient for their needs."
stability
suitability
"The higher sidewalls may not provide adequate support for over-pronators in all conditions."
over-pronation
stability
sidewalls
"There is some hit against the support structure in heavy usage situations."
support
guidance
"Although the shoe felt softer overall, it may lack the firmer support experienced in earlier models."
softness
stability
comparison
"The removal of the medial post could lead to instability for users accustomed to more traditional support features."
removal
instability
support
"The new medial support technology feels strange compared to previous models, which could affect stability."
medial support
stability
"The shoe's updated support may not offer sufficient stability for some runners."
Center PATH technology
medial post
support
"The stability offered by the shoe is not as pronounced as some might expect from a stability shoe."
stability
support
"There may be inadequate support for extreme overpronation."
overpronation
arch support
"Some runners found the stability technology too harsh for lower arches."
stability
arch support
"Runners with higher arches may still find the stability technology too harsh."
stability
arch support
"Some reviewers found the stability technology felt harsh compared to previous models."
stability
technology
previous models
"Some runners may find the stability features too pronounced."
stability
pronation
"The shoe lacks traditional medial posting which some runners may find inadequate for overpronation support."
overpronation
support
medial posting
"The stability features are diminished due to the removal of the medial post."
stability
shoe design
medial post
"Higher sidewalls may not accommodate all foot shapes."
stability
foot shapes
"The Guide 17 may not provide adequate stability for those needing higher levels of support."
stability
support
"The Guide 17 may not provide enough stability for certain runners."
stability
support
"The Guide 17 may not provide enough stability for runners seeking higher levels of support."
stability
support
"The Guide 17 may not provide sufficient stability for some runners."
stability
support
inadequate
"The stability features may feel excessive for some runners, which can impact comfort."
stability
comfort
"The stability features are less noticeable compared to previous models."
stability
performance
width
"The shoe has a wide base that may not be suitable for speed work or tempo runs."
stability
wide base
speed
"The shoe felt a bit heavier due to the added stability features."
weight
stability
"The Guide 17 may not provide enough medial stability for those accustomed to traditional stability shoes."
medial stability
traditional stability
guidance
"The Guide 17 has moved away from traditional stability methods, potentially disappointing loyal users of previous models."
traditional
geometry
stability
"The Ride 17 has less prominent side walls and sole flare, making it less stable compared to the Guide 17."
side walls
flare
stability
"The shoe lacks options for those needing more specific stability features."
stability
support
guidance
"The outsole lacks a plastic arch piece which might affect some users' stability needs."
arch support
outsole
"While stability is improved, it may not be sufficient for those needing more targeted support in the forefoot."
forefoot support
stability
"The heel counter lacks adequate structure for stability."
heel counter
support
design
"The new design may not meet the expectations of runners who prefer a more structured stability shoe."
everyday
structured
ambitious
"The removal of guide rails leads to instability."
instability
support
blisters
"The Guide 17 appears to lack significant prescriptive stability elements compared to its predecessors, which may negatively affect over-pronating runners."
stability
over-pronation
support
"The shoe lacks traditional medial post stability elements, which might not provide sufficient support for some runners."
medial post
stability
support
"The shoe's stability features could feel a bit excessive for some runners."
stability
support

traction (5)
outsole (2)
terrain adaptability (1)
width (1)
wet conditions (1)
performance (1)
wet_condition (1)
rubber (1)
Pros
"The shoe performs well on various surfaces, primarily designed for road use yet showing decent traction."
road use
solid traction
durable
"The Guide 17's traction is effective on various surfaces, including wet roads."
grip
wet conditions
versatile
"There are no reported issues with traction, even on wet surfaces, enhancing overall performance."
traction
wet surface
performance
"The shoe has a good grip, suitable for different surfaces without slipping."
traction
grip
surface adaptability
"The shoe adapts well over different terrain types, providing good grip and stability."
grip
stability
adaptability
"The shoe features a reliable grip thanks to its strategically placed outsole rubber, enhancing performance during runs."
grip
traction
performance
"The outsole has been redesigned to be wider, enhancing grip and stability for the runner."
outsole
grip
stability
Cons
"The grip performance of the shoe is subpar."
grip
traction
performance
"The shoe's grip is compromised due to the design changes made to reduce weight."
grip loss
rubber
slick surfaces
"There's concern over the outsole's performance in wet conditions."
outsole
wet conditions
rubber coverage
"The design of the outsole may not provide the best grip for all types of terrain."
traction
outsole
comfort
"Less rubber on the outsole may lead to less traction than previous models on certain surfaces."
outsole
traction
comparison
"Grip on wet surfaces is limited."
traction
safety
"More work could be done on enhancing grip for varied terrains."
grip
terrain
support
"The outsole may lack grip on wet terrain."
grip
wet terrain
durability
"The shoe's grip provided by the rubber outsole is not very impressive."
grip
outsole
smooth
"The Guide 17 lacks sufficient rubber coverage on the outsole, which affects its performance in slippery conditions."
rubber coverage
outsole
slippage
"The new outsole design might compromise grip compared to previous versions."
outsole design
grip
comparison
"The ASICS GT 2000 is noted to have an overall better outsole than the Guide 17, signaling a weakness in the latter's design."
outsole
comparison
design
"The shoe may not be the best fit for technical or rough terrain."
terrain
grip
performance

style (5)
weight (3)
design (3)
sustainability (3)
lightweight (2)
aesthetics (2)
aesthetic (2)
upgrades (1)
Pros
"The recent upgrades improve fit and ride smoothness, marking a significant improvement from earlier iterations."
improved fit
better ride
significant change
"The shoe maintains a lightweight design, making it suitable for daily running."
lightweight
daily running
"The shoe is lightweight despite a bulky appearance, contributing to an enjoyable run."
lightweight
daily trainer
comfortable running
"The heavier weight does not compromise the feel while running; it remains comfortable despite being slightly heavier than previous models."
weight
comfort
"The shoe has a minimal design that appeals to users looking for a simpler aesthetic."
minimalist
design
colors
"The aesthetics of the shoe offer a range of colorways to suit different preferences."
styles
colorways
"The updated design of the Saucony Guide 17 offers a fresh look compared to the previous version."
style
appearance
"The design of the Saucony Guide 17 feels fresh and visually appealing."
aesthetics
colorway
visual appeal
"The design of the shoes is aesthetically pleasing, adding to their appeal."
aesthetics
"The shoe's lightweight design adds to the overall comfort during long-duration runs."
light
comfortable
"Overall, the shoe is lightweight, making it suitable for daily runs without feeling cumbersome."
lightweight
daily_runs
training
"The modern design of the shoe allows runners to feel good about their gear."
aesthetic
design
style
"The Guide 17 is versatile and can be used for a variety of activities beyond running."
versatile
multi-use
value
"It offers a solid option for recovery and easy runs, making it versatile for differing types of training."
training
versatile
"The shoe performs well for both running and walking, making it versatile for different activities."
running
walking
versatile
"This shoe is suitable for a variety of runners looking for comfort."
variety
runners
comfort
"Overall, it is presented as a versatile and good all-around shoe for support needs."
versatile
new release
"The Guide 17 is suitable for both everyday runners and ambitious athletes."
everyday use
ambitious athletes
all-rounder
"The shoe's construction includes recycled materials, promoting an eco-conscious design."
recycled materials
eco-friendly
"They incorporate eco-conscious materials, improving their sustainability."
sustainable
recycled materials
"The shoe is classified as vegan and made from fully recyclable materials, positively contributing to environmental concerns."
vegan
recyclable
"The price of the shoe is considered reasonable for its features and quality."
affordability
value
"The look of the shoe is appealing and well-received."
look
design
"The shoe is reasonably priced compared to other high-end options."
pricing
value
"The price point of $140 is seen as an excellent value for the quality offered."
price
value
affordability
"Overall, the shoe has received excellent ratings for its fit, comfort, and performance after multiple runs."
ratings
performance
fit
"The new design intendedly aims to appeal to a broader audience, similar to popular models like Hoka."
Hoka appeal
broad audience
market strategy
"The shoe is competitively priced for the features it offers at $140."
affordable
value
"This shoe provides a quieter run due to its rubberized outsole, which minimizes noise upon impact."
outsole
quiet run
"The update makes a significant evolutionary change while retaining the shoe's fan-favorite status."
update
fan-favorite
"Overall, the shoe is regarded as a fan favorite due to its evolutionary updates."
fan favorite
evolutionary
update
Cons
"Airflow through the shoe's upper does not meet expectations."
breathability
airflow
"The shoe has a basic appearance that may not attract all runners."
design
aesthetics
"Not enough variety in color options available."
color options
style
design
"The aesthetics may not appeal to all runners."
style
design
"Some reviewers found the style of the upper did not meet their personal preferences, which may affect overall satisfaction."
aesthetics
personal preference
"Some reviewers did not resonate with the style of the shoe."
aesthetics
personal preference
"Personal style preferences may not favor the appearance of the Guide 17."
aesthetics
personal preference
"The style of the Guide 17 did not appeal to all reviewers, indicating some aesthetic concerns."
style
design
"The color wasn't initially appealing but later grew on the reviewer."
color
appearance
preference
"The design of the shoe appears outdated and lacks a modern aesthetic."
style
appearance
overlays
"Potential for design fatigue, as the aesthetic feels too similar to previous models."
aesthetic
design fatigue
"The design of the shoe is criticized for being overly similar to Hoka models, indicating a lack of originality."
copying
originality
Hoka
"The shoe lacks some features that have been incorporated into other models, specifically the PWRRUN+."
PWRRUN+
comparisons
"The color combinations and overall look of the shoe are not appealing."
color
design
"The design style of the shoe did not appeal to all testers."
style
preference
"The shoe lacks versatility for different types of runs."
all-round
performance
"The shoe could be lighter, which may affect long-distance runs."
weight
comfort
"The Triumph 22 shoe is noted to be heavier than expected for a running shoe."
heavy
max cushion
running shoe
"The shoe has a heavier weight compared to previous models."
weight
heaviness
comparison
"The shoe's price point might not justify its lower tier feel for some runners."
price
value
"The weight difference between the two shoes may disadvantage runners looking for a lighter option."
weight
lightweight
"The review mentions that while both shoes are good, the Guide 17 does not stand out and feels less appealing overall."
appeal
competition
lesser
"The shoe's drop changing to 6mm may not suit all runners."
drop change
heel height
"The copying of design elements from other brands could lead to consumer confusion and a diminished brand identity for Saucony."
copying
branding
identity
"While the shoe is described as lightweight, some runners may find it still feels heavier due to the maximum cushioning."
lightweight
heavier
maximum cushioning
"The retail price remains the same despite the overhaul, which might not justify the investment for some."
cost
value

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Model Updates

The Saucony Guide 17 introduces a new PWRRUN foam that is lighter and more responsive, aiming to provide a smoother and more comfortable ride compared to its predecessor. Additionally, it features an updated support frame for improved stability, catering specifically to runners who require mild to moderate pronation control.

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